I met a co-worker yesterday in the employee lunchroom, there was a guy and then this black girl 6, cute, 21 yr old. I started up a conversation that would include all of us, it was something like I haven't seen any of you around here are you new? I was actually working an evening shift opposed to my normal morning shift which is the reason I haven't seen them before. The guy was new only about 2 months, while the Girl has been there about 6 months. From there I moved onto what departments they worked at, and before I knew it we all were in a conversation. A strange thing occurred those as we were getting to know each other, b-day's came up and the girl said Sept, I then said Oct, and the guy said Nov. In that order we revealed to each other, then we asked for days, and I started with 22nd, then the girl answered with the 23rd, and believe it or not the guy said the 24th.
Anyway I was changing the subject to music by taking out my phone and about to play a song from phone, when the guy had to get back to work, leaving me alone with the girl. She liked R&B and rap but I didn't have anything on my phone, although I like some of that music so I played something close to it. With the music playing I could now barely hear her when she asked me a question so I said let me move closer cause I can barely hear you now. So I sat right across from her instead of across the room like I was. The move turned out to one of the best things I could have done, in that we started having a real conversation now. It was going pretty well, and it seemed like she was interested in me, but when I did a future projection it seemed to change.
This is from what I remember how it happened:
She asked me what I was like in HS, and she mentioned she was somewhat of a tomboy
Me: "Ya I don't really see you in a frilly dress or anything"
Her: "Ya that's not really my thing"
Me: "So what would you wear if I asked you out on a date then?"
Her: She smiled bashfully, and was eating a sandwich at the time, so I caught her with her mouth full. When she was ready to speak she said "That might pose a problem, you see I have a BF"
Me: I immediately said as sincere as possible with a big smile on my face "I wasn't asking you out, I was just wondering" or something very similar to that. "Besides I don't date co-workers, it can get too messy"
Her: She said something in response to that like "oh ya I see what you mean" then continued with something like "well back to what I would wear... I'm not sure what I would wear." She was still smiling with her bashful face, I guess I took her for a surprise.
Now from what I can tell analyzing this, I would say that either I pushed it too fast, or perhaps it's the way I might have said it. We moved onto another topic after that and kept talking for quite a while before I had to get back to work. I probably should have still ended it with something like, "well you seem pretty cool" and went for a #close, but I didn't think of it at the time as someone else came in and started talking to her, leaving me out of the conversation. I knew I would see her later and did indeed see her later that night as I had to go around to all the cashiers (which she was) and collect hangers. Unfortunately when I got to her, she was on the phone, and taking care of customers. So no interaction occurred, Aside from the friendly Hi, and a smile from each of us.
Sunday, December 7, 2008
Thursday, October 16, 2008
Job Orientation
So today I went for part 2 of my new job's orientation and along with me was another male (19), and a female (20). This girl was about a 5.5, long black hair, really nice body, I'm talking tight ass, about C cup, I would say only about 100 pounds so skinny and tiny. Downsides that I found out as I spoke to her where: A Smoker, driving with only a permit (doesn't feel she needs license), didn't go to college, missing a tooth (It was on the top right side), also now that I think about it, her being 6 yrs younger than me might be a bit much, and lastly a tiny stud piercing just below her cheek near her mouth. Some cool things I liked were she had 20 tattoo's all over her body, she was an only child like me, also grew up with just her mom like me, her body.
Enough of all of that lets get into how this all started. I got there early the first day, and was told we were waiting on 2 others a male and female. Immediately I knew I had to start thinking PUA, and self prepared myself for some questions and ways to start talking. Thankfully she came first about 5 minutes before the male, so I opened her up with so are you going for position ________ too? She said no she was there for a cashier position. From there it really went well with back and forth questions, which unfortunately I don't remember. During our "training" I was thinking if I should after we were done to suggest that we go get a cup of coffee. I never did this but now thankful that I didn't. Two reasons I should have done this is 1) It would have been the right move to do, and 2) She mentioned that today our next meeting she was going to be busy after the training. However after getting to know her a more today I'm thankful because although I was attracted to her, I didn't want to spend any time or money on her.
So today I was actually pulled away from the other two to speak with my manager whom gave me my hours for the next two days that was the last I saw them. I was "training" with them while waiting for my manager, they were getting information about the register which I'm not doing. I decided thought before hand that and will do is if I see her again is to just be friendly, and ask her how the new job is going but really no more.
Enough of all of that lets get into how this all started. I got there early the first day, and was told we were waiting on 2 others a male and female. Immediately I knew I had to start thinking PUA, and self prepared myself for some questions and ways to start talking. Thankfully she came first about 5 minutes before the male, so I opened her up with so are you going for position ________ too? She said no she was there for a cashier position. From there it really went well with back and forth questions, which unfortunately I don't remember. During our "training" I was thinking if I should after we were done to suggest that we go get a cup of coffee. I never did this but now thankful that I didn't. Two reasons I should have done this is 1) It would have been the right move to do, and 2) She mentioned that today our next meeting she was going to be busy after the training. However after getting to know her a more today I'm thankful because although I was attracted to her, I didn't want to spend any time or money on her.
So today I was actually pulled away from the other two to speak with my manager whom gave me my hours for the next two days that was the last I saw them. I was "training" with them while waiting for my manager, they were getting information about the register which I'm not doing. I decided thought before hand that and will do is if I see her again is to just be friendly, and ask her how the new job is going but really no more.
Wednesday, October 8, 2008
Ferry Approach
This was an approach that took place back on August 24th. I've taken a break from all this Pick up stuff for the past few months as my mind has been focused on other things. In attempt to not forget anything that I have learned and to perhaps to be more active I decided to continue my blog with any approaches I have done, even thought it is a bit late.
This girl had a red shirt, and was a 5.0 with black hair. I was just going into NYC for something...? anyway I was outside leaning on the railing when I saw her taking pictures of the city with this fancy camera. I thought she was just another tourist, so I mentioned that the statue of liberty was coming up on our left if she wanted to take a shot of that. She thanked me, and told me she was a student doing a project for some class where she just had to take like 1000 pictures of anything. It would help if it was in a theme such as building or in her case she choose People. So she was just trying to take pictures of whatever, she talked back and forth for the whole trip about various things. About halfway through I volunteered my pose for one of her pictures, she thanked me. I was going to go for a number close and prolly should had for practice sake, but she wasn't remotely attractive to me, and I don't like to "pretend" I'm interested when I'm not. But overall it was a really good approach that lasted for almost 30 min.
This girl had a red shirt, and was a 5.0 with black hair. I was just going into NYC for something...? anyway I was outside leaning on the railing when I saw her taking pictures of the city with this fancy camera. I thought she was just another tourist, so I mentioned that the statue of liberty was coming up on our left if she wanted to take a shot of that. She thanked me, and told me she was a student doing a project for some class where she just had to take like 1000 pictures of anything. It would help if it was in a theme such as building or in her case she choose People. So she was just trying to take pictures of whatever, she talked back and forth for the whole trip about various things. About halfway through I volunteered my pose for one of her pictures, she thanked me. I was going to go for a number close and prolly should had for practice sake, but she wasn't remotely attractive to me, and I don't like to "pretend" I'm interested when I'm not. But overall it was a really good approach that lasted for almost 30 min.
Sunday, June 22, 2008
On the boardwalk
I decided to hit up south beach yesterday instead of going to my the bookstore as it was real nice out, and wanted to change things up a bit. As far as sets went it didn't go so well, but looking at it from enjoyment I had a pretty good time alone.
I decided to carry a book with me while I was going to be walking up and down the boardwalk and perhaps stop every so often to read, or use it as an excuse why I was out there. Since I was wearing long jeans I and sneakers the beach or saying that I was there to tan was out of the question.
So I started walking towards the pier where lots of people where fishing instead of towards the food stand, I figured I would go that way on the way back, and this boardwalk is very long too.
1) The first person I talked too, actually opened me, don't get any positive ideas it was a 41 (I think) yr old man. I stopped walking to text on my phone, and he was nearby and said something like "there a pain in the ass aren't they?" I said "Ya". When I was done texting I leaned on a nearby bench to try and send out a signal, I think he re-opened then with "You can't live with em and you can't live w/o them" I laughed and said ya. I decided to talk to him as to get me in the talkative mood, and was wondering if he was doing the same. We talked a bit out the beach, and how nice it was out, and some other stuff. He finally lit a cigarette and I wanted to continue to try and find GIRLS, so I said something like it was nice meeting you and said I was going to get going.
2) I saw a cute girl maybe a 6.5 laying face down on a chair near a live band, and a person that looked to be her mom on the phone sitting down on a nearby beach to her. I wanted and should have approached her, but felt weird cause she looked a bit young and if that was her mother it would have been awkward.
3) So continuing down the pier I get to the all the fishermen and there many poles. There wasn't any girls for some reason so I leaned on the railing to take in the nice view and sea air. I decided to talk to some of the guys there fishing, and we talked well about fishing for a good while. I came here for a reason to meet and talk to people so I might as well talk to these guys. I learned quite a bit about fishing there, such as you can only keep a fish that is a certain size like at least 12"; This is so the babies can grow up and can reproduce.
4) Finally a GIRL, I was walking down back the way I came, and saw an ice cream truck and said hey I'm going to get an ice cream cone damn it, I haven't had one in years. Now somehow fate would have it that I 7.5 brown haired girl ALONE ended up walking in front of me and was getting one as well. Unfortunately the ice cream truck was about 20 feet from the live band that finally started playing. I said I would open her, but found it hard to do so while I was standing behind her. I could have said something like "So many good things to eat how to choose, and then asked what she was getting", but I never think of these kind of things at the appropriate time. She actually got her cone and sat down on the bench nearby, where I sat down next to her after I got my cone. I opened with Kate Perry, then transitioned to what brought her there today. She said she was with her cousins and waiting for them or something, she then kind of turned away of me, and just licked her ice cream. I felt it went dead, that and I had a brain fart couldn't think of anything to say, in fact I only did the girl part of the routine. So it was short, but at least I talked to a girl while I was there.
After that I walked back to the entrance where I came from and sat down on a bench while I tried to think of what I wanted to do next. I really didn't want to walk up and down the boardwalk anywhere, and was enjoying the cool breeze and view from the bench. At some point that girl I opened passed by talking on the phone alone, guess she wasn't with cousins... I actually staying sitting for almost 45 minutes, just relaxing, and there was a cool breeze so regardless of wearing long pants and a dark shirt I was actually very comfortable.
I decided to carry a book with me while I was going to be walking up and down the boardwalk and perhaps stop every so often to read, or use it as an excuse why I was out there. Since I was wearing long jeans I and sneakers the beach or saying that I was there to tan was out of the question.
So I started walking towards the pier where lots of people where fishing instead of towards the food stand, I figured I would go that way on the way back, and this boardwalk is very long too.
1) The first person I talked too, actually opened me, don't get any positive ideas it was a 41 (I think) yr old man. I stopped walking to text on my phone, and he was nearby and said something like "there a pain in the ass aren't they?" I said "Ya". When I was done texting I leaned on a nearby bench to try and send out a signal, I think he re-opened then with "You can't live with em and you can't live w/o them" I laughed and said ya. I decided to talk to him as to get me in the talkative mood, and was wondering if he was doing the same. We talked a bit out the beach, and how nice it was out, and some other stuff. He finally lit a cigarette and I wanted to continue to try and find GIRLS, so I said something like it was nice meeting you and said I was going to get going.
2) I saw a cute girl maybe a 6.5 laying face down on a chair near a live band, and a person that looked to be her mom on the phone sitting down on a nearby beach to her. I wanted and should have approached her, but felt weird cause she looked a bit young and if that was her mother it would have been awkward.
3) So continuing down the pier I get to the all the fishermen and there many poles. There wasn't any girls for some reason so I leaned on the railing to take in the nice view and sea air. I decided to talk to some of the guys there fishing, and we talked well about fishing for a good while. I came here for a reason to meet and talk to people so I might as well talk to these guys. I learned quite a bit about fishing there, such as you can only keep a fish that is a certain size like at least 12"; This is so the babies can grow up and can reproduce.
4) Finally a GIRL, I was walking down back the way I came, and saw an ice cream truck and said hey I'm going to get an ice cream cone damn it, I haven't had one in years. Now somehow fate would have it that I 7.5 brown haired girl ALONE ended up walking in front of me and was getting one as well. Unfortunately the ice cream truck was about 20 feet from the live band that finally started playing. I said I would open her, but found it hard to do so while I was standing behind her. I could have said something like "So many good things to eat how to choose, and then asked what she was getting", but I never think of these kind of things at the appropriate time. She actually got her cone and sat down on the bench nearby, where I sat down next to her after I got my cone. I opened with Kate Perry, then transitioned to what brought her there today. She said she was with her cousins and waiting for them or something, she then kind of turned away of me, and just licked her ice cream. I felt it went dead, that and I had a brain fart couldn't think of anything to say, in fact I only did the girl part of the routine. So it was short, but at least I talked to a girl while I was there.
After that I walked back to the entrance where I came from and sat down on a bench while I tried to think of what I wanted to do next. I really didn't want to walk up and down the boardwalk anywhere, and was enjoying the cool breeze and view from the bench. At some point that girl I opened passed by talking on the phone alone, guess she wasn't with cousins... I actually staying sitting for almost 45 minutes, just relaxing, and there was a cool breeze so regardless of wearing long pants and a dark shirt I was actually very comfortable.
Saturday, June 21, 2008
Day 3 with E
Me and E had out D3 today (well last night), started off at the mini golf place, and I have to say it wasn't was fun as I normally would have during it mostly cause we didn't keep track of anything. We just went from hole to hole taking our few shots to get the ball in. I took this opportunity every few holes to really mess around such as: Played like a game of pool, blocked her ball from going in, knocking her ball out of the way to hit mine, things like these. I also made sure to kino as much as possible and did fine, but it seemed like we "Rushed" through the 16 holes (I don't understand why only 16) and when we were done I felt like ok well that was kinda fun, said "Lets go back to my place relax and watch a movie" she asked something like do you have any good ones, I told her about the movie I planned for us to watch which was "Serendipity". As we got close to my house I said "ya know what, I want to show you something" and we parked in front of my house then took a walk to my nearby beach and got to see part of the sunset that I planned on showing her. Just in time too, although the sun was only partially showing still nice and we sat on a bench, relaxed and talked a bit. Afterwards we went back to my place and I popped in the movie and we began to watch.
Oh by the way when we got to the beach I leaned in and kissed her for the first time that day, when I picked her up I went for a kiss on the lips but somehow got a cheek and a hug. But when I kissed her on the beach she had this BIG weird smile with her teeth showing like it was unexpected and not what she wanted. I played with her hair a bit too while we were sitting, and did some light kino, although I was trying to figure out how to do more. Afterwards we went back to my place place and I popped in movie and we both laid down on my bean bag.
Did all of my "Making out" techniques, neck kissing, sexual touching of arms and legs constantly, French kissed once (by request), I kinda did the lip sucking. But it seems like it couldn't go anywhere, at one point I was semi on top of her with our legs kinda entwined and I got "pushed" off somehow, she repositioned herself and I wasn't on her anymore. The French kiss was weird, I tried a few times to stick my tongue in her mouth but it wouldn't open and I would giggle. At one point she said "what's so funny?" I said nothing, and she pushed the question I said "I don't know, I'm not sure" about a minute later I tried to do it again, and giggled again and told her "Ya know what I know whats funny, I'm hurting my back by trying to kiss you in this position" She said something like "oh I'm sorry your back hurts" and I repositioned and continued to kiss her. I realized though what I really was giggling about was that she sucked at kissing, and that this was getting no where, not sure why I thought that was funny but oh well.
After a while I got really uncomfortable in my position of being on her right side, and thought I would have a better position to make out on the other side, that and my arm was falling asleep holding her in that position. So I told her I wanted to switch sides, we did and I waited a while before I moved in again. At some point I realized that this wasn't going to work while watching the movie as we both were getting into to so I figured I would wait until the end, and just keep touching her in the mean time. I tried stopping every so often as to maybe get that "tease" going where she would miss my kino, but that didn't seem to affect her at all. In fact I don't think that it turned her on exactly, I did it was sensual as possible and just like I used to do with Alania.
After the movie I really went in for "pushing" the making out as much as I could, somewhere in there she repositioned herself and sort of pushed me away in the process. That was the end of the kissing at my place, but got 3 kisses in the car when I dropped her off at her house. So after that we kind of just laid there relaxed and talked a bit, and I made sure that I felt no uncomfortable silences. She reinitated the conversation a few times and I remember her saying at one point "Next time we hand out we should go to the city". Finally she said "Lets get some coffee" I looked at the time, really didn't want to get coffee or spend anymore time with her, and knew if we left the place that would the end of it, but said sure. We sat for a minute to discuss which Starbucks might be open at 10:30, and decided that one of which was kinda close might be open and we took off to go see. It was and she got tea, and I got my tall Moca Frap which is prolly the only reason I'm still up now (midnight) typing all this shit. We drank and we talked, I did some light kino on her leg since we were sitting perpendicular to each other at a table. Then we finally finished up and I drove her home, we mostly listened to music on the drive home, with light talking.
When she was leaving the car she said thank you, and mentioned something like "I'll give you a call sometime" I don't know if that was her way of saying "Don't call me, I'll call you". Overall I really only had a so so time, got basically no where sexually, and felt she felt the same. I don't particularly want to see her again and at this point in time don't think I will. Now I just have to figure out what to say to her the next time she messages or calls me. I'm thinking now that I might just put her in the Lets just be friends zone because at this point I don't think it's going to go anywhere. Plus another date isn't exactly what I'm looking for, so I think hanging out whenever would be more likely.
Oh by the way when we got to the beach I leaned in and kissed her for the first time that day, when I picked her up I went for a kiss on the lips but somehow got a cheek and a hug. But when I kissed her on the beach she had this BIG weird smile with her teeth showing like it was unexpected and not what she wanted. I played with her hair a bit too while we were sitting, and did some light kino, although I was trying to figure out how to do more. Afterwards we went back to my place place and I popped in movie and we both laid down on my bean bag.
Did all of my "Making out" techniques, neck kissing, sexual touching of arms and legs constantly, French kissed once (by request), I kinda did the lip sucking. But it seems like it couldn't go anywhere, at one point I was semi on top of her with our legs kinda entwined and I got "pushed" off somehow, she repositioned herself and I wasn't on her anymore. The French kiss was weird, I tried a few times to stick my tongue in her mouth but it wouldn't open and I would giggle. At one point she said "what's so funny?" I said nothing, and she pushed the question I said "I don't know, I'm not sure" about a minute later I tried to do it again, and giggled again and told her "Ya know what I know whats funny, I'm hurting my back by trying to kiss you in this position" She said something like "oh I'm sorry your back hurts" and I repositioned and continued to kiss her. I realized though what I really was giggling about was that she sucked at kissing, and that this was getting no where, not sure why I thought that was funny but oh well.
After a while I got really uncomfortable in my position of being on her right side, and thought I would have a better position to make out on the other side, that and my arm was falling asleep holding her in that position. So I told her I wanted to switch sides, we did and I waited a while before I moved in again. At some point I realized that this wasn't going to work while watching the movie as we both were getting into to so I figured I would wait until the end, and just keep touching her in the mean time. I tried stopping every so often as to maybe get that "tease" going where she would miss my kino, but that didn't seem to affect her at all. In fact I don't think that it turned her on exactly, I did it was sensual as possible and just like I used to do with Alania.
After the movie I really went in for "pushing" the making out as much as I could, somewhere in there she repositioned herself and sort of pushed me away in the process. That was the end of the kissing at my place, but got 3 kisses in the car when I dropped her off at her house. So after that we kind of just laid there relaxed and talked a bit, and I made sure that I felt no uncomfortable silences. She reinitated the conversation a few times and I remember her saying at one point "Next time we hand out we should go to the city". Finally she said "Lets get some coffee" I looked at the time, really didn't want to get coffee or spend anymore time with her, and knew if we left the place that would the end of it, but said sure. We sat for a minute to discuss which Starbucks might be open at 10:30, and decided that one of which was kinda close might be open and we took off to go see. It was and she got tea, and I got my tall Moca Frap which is prolly the only reason I'm still up now (midnight) typing all this shit. We drank and we talked, I did some light kino on her leg since we were sitting perpendicular to each other at a table. Then we finally finished up and I drove her home, we mostly listened to music on the drive home, with light talking.
When she was leaving the car she said thank you, and mentioned something like "I'll give you a call sometime" I don't know if that was her way of saying "Don't call me, I'll call you". Overall I really only had a so so time, got basically no where sexually, and felt she felt the same. I don't particularly want to see her again and at this point in time don't think I will. Now I just have to figure out what to say to her the next time she messages or calls me. I'm thinking now that I might just put her in the Lets just be friends zone because at this point I don't think it's going to go anywhere. Plus another date isn't exactly what I'm looking for, so I think hanging out whenever would be more likely.
Day 2 with E
This was on 6-14-08 I just didn't get around to actually posting anything as I was keeping it private. But I decided to share some information on how D2 went before I could post how D3 went.
Ok so I finally went out with E... The date itself went pretty fine and fun. We started off having her come to my place to get familiar with it, so it's not some crazy unknown place when I bring her back later. All went well there, she came in I went to the bathroom and put on some cologne and then we left. I kinoed on the leg several times during all the car trips we took, I decided to take us to the pool hall and we played for a couple of hours, lots of talking and kino went on.
Moving on... from the pool hall I suggested we get something to eat cause I was hungry so we stopped at a diner on the way back to my place. We talked a lot about food, mostly that I don't even remember. No kino happened cause we were sitting across from one another. Took her picture after I showed her a pic of my cat, and she then took a pic of me on her phone. From there we finally came back to my place where I had mentioned I would show her my tropical fish. I have a screen saver that is of tropical fish and looks real too, she liked it when she came in :P
This is where things started to get weird, I knew that I was supposed to kiss her at the pool hall and just couldn't fit it in naturally. So when I was playing the question game I was going to ask her if she wanted to kiss me, but we got off topic and it ended pre-maturely. So I pointed over to my fish while I got a bit settled then came up to her. I told her to come here, and pulled her close while putting my hands on her hip and kissed her. I got no response... NONE what so ever, not even a kiss back or any pushing forward on her part when I moved in for the kiss. I don't remember what happened into between that 1st kiss and the 2nd kiss but I then showed her my Bean bag.
I told her that you have to sit on it, it's really comfy and as she was trying to say "I don't know" or something I said your light right? and semi picked her up and threw her on it. I laid down next to her at first not right up on her. I think We talked about something for a second then I kissed her again. Now every time I kiss her I get nothing but the same smile she was given me all night long, no resistance, or any indication that she is enjoying it, or to press forward. I finally said, let me put on some music, and I get up and ask if she likes classical music. I pull out a CD and let it start playing, then lay right next to her this time on the bean bag with my arm kinda under her head. She asked for the CD case before I came back and wanted to see if she recognized any of the songs, and I asked her if she knew how to play
any instruments and we talked lightly on that for a bit. I lean in and kiss her again, I then say to tilt her head and I proceed to kiss her neck once. I was really starting to feel awkward at this point in time, and think is when I finally mentioned something like you give no resistance, I might have even said at this time "This feels awkward, I don't know why?". I think then I kissed her neck a few times and her
again. I remember at some point that I realized she was holding my hand as I was holding hers, and I was rubbing it and moved my other hand to rub her other hand. I mentioned what happened her hand at some point as it was ruff, she said it was dry or something, and i think I kissed her again.
Also I remember at some point I also mentioned some of these things:
Me: "what are you thinking about" Her: "Nothing"
Me: "You look like you have something on your mind" Her: "No"
Me: "are you sure your not having naughty thoughts?" Her: I don't even remember getting ANY response, just that same smile I was getting throughout.
Me: "Why don't you take off your shoes and relax a bit" Her: "I am relaxed" as she moved her arms above her head in a stretching position.
Finally I couldn't take being uncomfortable and didn't know where to take this. But little did I know it was the single most stupidest thing I could have done. I got up and said I want to show you something, I pulled out a Magic the Gathering Deck and laid out a few cards on the table for her to see. I mentioned that this was the game, and I briefly mentioned what you need to do to win. I think after that she moved to topic to something like "You have to get up early don't you?" or "I'm getting tired and have to get going" something like that shit. I tried to keep her as long as I could as I didn't want her to leave yet, but at the same time I was relieved and needed to get sleep anyway. She did mention a few times and again before she left that she had fun, and we should do it again sometime.
From what I gathered at the time she really wasn't enjoying any of the sexual stuff as I got ZERO response back, but Yummy just said that I should have just pushed it as far she would have let me. That her giving me zero resistance was her way of saying to just take her. I felt very awkward and weird, it didn't feel mutual or fun for me. I needed a verbal or physical or ANY IOI to press forward. I'm sure Yummy is right in his advice but even as I think about it, I feel awkward and not even sure what exactly I would have done to press forward. Would I have rubbed her stomach, her breasts? I could have said something like "take off your shirt it's wet" (It was raining). But nooo none of this shit ever comes to me at the time when I need it. I was and the truth is I guess I felt at the time that I was just another AFC, but I shouldn't have, but I realize this all too late. We'll see how big I messed up when I try contacting her for a follow up date on Monday for a Friday "date". Not sure what I can do with her, and if we do get back to my place will she expect a repeat? Will I unintentionally repeat myself?
I realize now that I felt nothing for her, I'm still feeling things for Alania, and still miss her. Perhaps I received no emotion back when I kissed her is because she felt none for me as well. How can I move onto another girl if I truly haven't moved on?
I figured out why I felt nothing when I kissed her, I know I should stop comparing her to Alania, and didn't think I would ever compare anything but hear me out on this. When I kissed Alania for the first time there was that stereotypical "magic" and "sparks" that whole deal, it was special and we both felt a click. When I kissed E, there was nothing, I felt nothing. I felt this before when I kissed Alania for
the last time, because there was no love in it, there was nothing, I remember even crying afterwards and during the kiss :(
Ok so I finally went out with E... The date itself went pretty fine and fun. We started off having her come to my place to get familiar with it, so it's not some crazy unknown place when I bring her back later. All went well there, she came in I went to the bathroom and put on some cologne and then we left. I kinoed on the leg several times during all the car trips we took, I decided to take us to the pool hall and we played for a couple of hours, lots of talking and kino went on.
Moving on... from the pool hall I suggested we get something to eat cause I was hungry so we stopped at a diner on the way back to my place. We talked a lot about food, mostly that I don't even remember. No kino happened cause we were sitting across from one another. Took her picture after I showed her a pic of my cat, and she then took a pic of me on her phone. From there we finally came back to my place where I had mentioned I would show her my tropical fish. I have a screen saver that is of tropical fish and looks real too, she liked it when she came in :P
This is where things started to get weird, I knew that I was supposed to kiss her at the pool hall and just couldn't fit it in naturally. So when I was playing the question game I was going to ask her if she wanted to kiss me, but we got off topic and it ended pre-maturely. So I pointed over to my fish while I got a bit settled then came up to her. I told her to come here, and pulled her close while putting my hands on her hip and kissed her. I got no response... NONE what so ever, not even a kiss back or any pushing forward on her part when I moved in for the kiss. I don't remember what happened into between that 1st kiss and the 2nd kiss but I then showed her my Bean bag.
I told her that you have to sit on it, it's really comfy and as she was trying to say "I don't know" or something I said your light right? and semi picked her up and threw her on it. I laid down next to her at first not right up on her. I think We talked about something for a second then I kissed her again. Now every time I kiss her I get nothing but the same smile she was given me all night long, no resistance, or any indication that she is enjoying it, or to press forward. I finally said, let me put on some music, and I get up and ask if she likes classical music. I pull out a CD and let it start playing, then lay right next to her this time on the bean bag with my arm kinda under her head. She asked for the CD case before I came back and wanted to see if she recognized any of the songs, and I asked her if she knew how to play
any instruments and we talked lightly on that for a bit. I lean in and kiss her again, I then say to tilt her head and I proceed to kiss her neck once. I was really starting to feel awkward at this point in time, and think is when I finally mentioned something like you give no resistance, I might have even said at this time "This feels awkward, I don't know why?". I think then I kissed her neck a few times and her
again. I remember at some point that I realized she was holding my hand as I was holding hers, and I was rubbing it and moved my other hand to rub her other hand. I mentioned what happened her hand at some point as it was ruff, she said it was dry or something, and i think I kissed her again.
Also I remember at some point I also mentioned some of these things:
Me: "what are you thinking about" Her: "Nothing"
Me: "You look like you have something on your mind" Her: "No"
Me: "are you sure your not having naughty thoughts?" Her: I don't even remember getting ANY response, just that same smile I was getting throughout.
Me: "Why don't you take off your shoes and relax a bit" Her: "I am relaxed" as she moved her arms above her head in a stretching position.
Finally I couldn't take being uncomfortable and didn't know where to take this. But little did I know it was the single most stupidest thing I could have done. I got up and said I want to show you something, I pulled out a Magic the Gathering Deck and laid out a few cards on the table for her to see. I mentioned that this was the game, and I briefly mentioned what you need to do to win. I think after that she moved to topic to something like "You have to get up early don't you?" or "I'm getting tired and have to get going" something like that shit. I tried to keep her as long as I could as I didn't want her to leave yet, but at the same time I was relieved and needed to get sleep anyway. She did mention a few times and again before she left that she had fun, and we should do it again sometime.
From what I gathered at the time she really wasn't enjoying any of the sexual stuff as I got ZERO response back, but Yummy just said that I should have just pushed it as far she would have let me. That her giving me zero resistance was her way of saying to just take her. I felt very awkward and weird, it didn't feel mutual or fun for me. I needed a verbal or physical or ANY IOI to press forward. I'm sure Yummy is right in his advice but even as I think about it, I feel awkward and not even sure what exactly I would have done to press forward. Would I have rubbed her stomach, her breasts? I could have said something like "take off your shirt it's wet" (It was raining). But nooo none of this shit ever comes to me at the time when I need it. I was and the truth is I guess I felt at the time that I was just another AFC, but I shouldn't have, but I realize this all too late. We'll see how big I messed up when I try contacting her for a follow up date on Monday for a Friday "date". Not sure what I can do with her, and if we do get back to my place will she expect a repeat? Will I unintentionally repeat myself?
I realize now that I felt nothing for her, I'm still feeling things for Alania, and still miss her. Perhaps I received no emotion back when I kissed her is because she felt none for me as well. How can I move onto another girl if I truly haven't moved on?
I figured out why I felt nothing when I kissed her, I know I should stop comparing her to Alania, and didn't think I would ever compare anything but hear me out on this. When I kissed Alania for the first time there was that stereotypical "magic" and "sparks" that whole deal, it was special and we both felt a click. When I kissed E, there was nothing, I felt nothing. I felt this before when I kissed Alania for
the last time, because there was no love in it, there was nothing, I remember even crying afterwards and during the kiss :(
Tuesday, June 10, 2008
Yummy & Me Day 1
Ok well technically it's not the first time we got together, but it was the first time we spent most of the day doing this (3 hours at the mall, and another 3 at a bar). Plus I was hooked up to a recorder so I can listen back to see how much of an idiot I sounded like :P and should be very helpful too. I should also apologize and mention that this was on Saturday, and been lazy so I haven't written this till now. These 5 we did while walking around the mall, which we found out is something while having a wing with you is harder. Only because you have 2 people walking side by side, the set that I approach knows thats he's already with me, so to have to come in a bit later is for lack of a better word weird.
1) This first set demonstrated this theory very well as many things went wrong. I opened while me and him were leaning on a railing, and a 2 Set(blonde's a 6 & 7) came up the escalator. When I opened with my Kate Perry Routine, he went somewhere else, but the set already knew he was with me. I then transitioned to "how they knew each other", and the rest is a bit of a blur, guess I'll have to listen to the tape on exactly what happened. But anyway I signaled for Yummy to come in, I turned to him and said "Hey".I then introduced him to them saying "This is my friend Yummy" and then pointed to my target, and said "Oh, I didn't get your name, what was it?" she replied with something like "Thats cause we didn't give it", I think at that point she said something like "This feels like it's a set up" and they started giggling and left. Yummy started to laugh a bit too, since it was true, but I had a nervous feeling all throughout my body, and didn't laugh about it until later. I was more in a state of shock of wow I didn't expect that.
(Will update the rest of this when I hear the audio)
2) In a store 7.5 black hair
3) Hired Gun - Proactive Cart girl, 6.5 brown hair
4) 2 set "The Girls"
5) Bookstore a black girl 6 reading a book relating to vampires
6) Technically this was Yummy's Set but I have to mention it, because I messed it up.
Apparently when someone has their target locked in, I am not to converse with them at all. He tried on 3 occasions to # close, and I happened to butt in right at those moments. It wasn't on purpose and his target was asking me questions so I replied. This set was my 2 favorite Hired Guns in one spot, the cream girls as I will refer to them. The first one, Yummy's target (a 7.5 with black hair) and my obstacle (7 red head). I had him open these girls to see how he interacts with them and keep there sales at bay, while working game. As I've mentioned in the past I've interacted with them on a # of occasions, the 7.5 got me to buy a $55 dollar cream back in April. He did a great job, but I had a hard time keeping mine from working her stuff. Although she wasn't working it on me, she was pulling guys walking by cause she already knows I'm not buying anything.
The Bar
6) Opened a 3 set all went to same HS as me, so I opened with. "Hey didn't you go to HS Name?" The girl I opened that was closest to me, had a green shirt (5 red head) asked me how old I was, I think I just fell into it and told her, w/o making her guess (don't remember). She then went on to say that she was 4 yrs older than me, but her sister (striped shirt 4.5) and last girl in the yellow shirt (6.5) were the same age as me, so I prolly went to school with them. I don't remember if I said anything else, but I kind of screwed my self, I opened sitting down on the bar, and Yummy was sitting next to me and he was next to them so HE had the better advantage to really open them. So when I did I tapped the green shirt girl on her shoulder and remained
sitting. So when she was "done" with me, she turned to her friends that Yummy had opened and I was stuck still sitting all awkwardly. As it happens this set we interacted with throughout the night, I was trying to talk to the Yellow shirt girl, but for some reason the fugly one of the group took a liking to me, and put her arm around my shoulder and my hand was on her waist before I knew what even hit me. Mind you she was totally plastered, and we "danced" a bit, and I had her do a few twirls. To make matters worst they all smoked, so they tended to smell a lot of that and alcohol. But I was trying to figure out if I wanted to try and push this girl further into making out. I didn't want to stick around as they were constantly looking for her sister in the green shirt who ran off with a guy, that and I really wasn't into her at all.
7) 2 set (6's blondish hair & black hair)sitting next to me at the bar, opened with something like "Do you know if this place is always this busy on a Saturday? Transitioned to how they knew each other? Moved into if they knew of any other bars that might be popular (I think).
8) 2 set (7.5, 6 blonde's I think) standing around, opened with a horrible opening :( "Do you know of any better bars than this one?" Now this place was already packed so it was really bad and the way it came off was really poorly. Moved into if they knew of any other bars that might be popular. The Blonde left first while I was still trying to salvaged what I could from the friend. I blew that set soo hard, as it turns out then went to their friend who was standing near Yummy, and I proceeded to go sit back next to him. Yummy mentioned that they were laughing at me, and told their friend the odd question I asked them. :(
9) This place was cool it had a live band, and the first Singer a 19 yr old 6.5 with long brown hair was isolated a good part of the night after she was done. I approached her when she went to bar to talk to the bartender. I opened with, something like "Wow you can sing really good", and thanked me, and I proceeded ask her her age, and then moved into about how she got started and stuff. I went away for a bit, and then went back to her a while later, and asked if she was going to sing again, and if the person singing was part of her band. It was really hard to talk to her though because she was standing RIGHT next to the fucking bands and the music was
blaring and I can't talk that loud. But I thought it was going well, would have been better I prolly should have just tried to move her to a quieter location...
10) Brown hair 4 Girl sitting next to what appeared to be friends near the bathroom. When I came back I stopped and said to her "You look sooo bored" she agreed, and I think I moved into any other good bars around her. By then the place was starting to die down and getting late so I saw why she was like this.
Overall I had a blast at the bar, got to watch a bartender pour drinks blind folded, another 1 got up on the bar and started dancing to the song "Save a horse, ride a cowboy" with a horse mask on while another was in a cowboy outfit. The music was really good, and I got to get a better feel of the environment.
1) This first set demonstrated this theory very well as many things went wrong. I opened while me and him were leaning on a railing, and a 2 Set(blonde's a 6 & 7) came up the escalator. When I opened with my Kate Perry Routine, he went somewhere else, but the set already knew he was with me. I then transitioned to "how they knew each other", and the rest is a bit of a blur, guess I'll have to listen to the tape on exactly what happened. But anyway I signaled for Yummy to come in, I turned to him and said "Hey".I then introduced him to them saying "This is my friend Yummy" and then pointed to my target, and said "Oh, I didn't get your name, what was it?" she replied with something like "Thats cause we didn't give it", I think at that point she said something like "This feels like it's a set up" and they started giggling and left. Yummy started to laugh a bit too, since it was true, but I had a nervous feeling all throughout my body, and didn't laugh about it until later. I was more in a state of shock of wow I didn't expect that.
(Will update the rest of this when I hear the audio)
2) In a store 7.5 black hair
3) Hired Gun - Proactive Cart girl, 6.5 brown hair
4) 2 set "The Girls"
5) Bookstore a black girl 6 reading a book relating to vampires
6) Technically this was Yummy's Set but I have to mention it, because I messed it up.
Apparently when someone has their target locked in, I am not to converse with them at all. He tried on 3 occasions to # close, and I happened to butt in right at those moments. It wasn't on purpose and his target was asking me questions so I replied. This set was my 2 favorite Hired Guns in one spot, the cream girls as I will refer to them. The first one, Yummy's target (a 7.5 with black hair) and my obstacle (7 red head). I had him open these girls to see how he interacts with them and keep there sales at bay, while working game. As I've mentioned in the past I've interacted with them on a # of occasions, the 7.5 got me to buy a $55 dollar cream back in April. He did a great job, but I had a hard time keeping mine from working her stuff. Although she wasn't working it on me, she was pulling guys walking by cause she already knows I'm not buying anything.
The Bar
6) Opened a 3 set all went to same HS as me, so I opened with. "Hey didn't you go to HS Name?" The girl I opened that was closest to me, had a green shirt (5 red head) asked me how old I was, I think I just fell into it and told her, w/o making her guess (don't remember). She then went on to say that she was 4 yrs older than me, but her sister (striped shirt 4.5) and last girl in the yellow shirt (6.5) were the same age as me, so I prolly went to school with them. I don't remember if I said anything else, but I kind of screwed my self, I opened sitting down on the bar, and Yummy was sitting next to me and he was next to them so HE had the better advantage to really open them. So when I did I tapped the green shirt girl on her shoulder and remained
sitting. So when she was "done" with me, she turned to her friends that Yummy had opened and I was stuck still sitting all awkwardly. As it happens this set we interacted with throughout the night, I was trying to talk to the Yellow shirt girl, but for some reason the fugly one of the group took a liking to me, and put her arm around my shoulder and my hand was on her waist before I knew what even hit me. Mind you she was totally plastered, and we "danced" a bit, and I had her do a few twirls. To make matters worst they all smoked, so they tended to smell a lot of that and alcohol. But I was trying to figure out if I wanted to try and push this girl further into making out. I didn't want to stick around as they were constantly looking for her sister in the green shirt who ran off with a guy, that and I really wasn't into her at all.
7) 2 set (6's blondish hair & black hair)sitting next to me at the bar, opened with something like "Do you know if this place is always this busy on a Saturday? Transitioned to how they knew each other? Moved into if they knew of any other bars that might be popular (I think).
8) 2 set (7.5, 6 blonde's I think) standing around, opened with a horrible opening :( "Do you know of any better bars than this one?" Now this place was already packed so it was really bad and the way it came off was really poorly. Moved into if they knew of any other bars that might be popular. The Blonde left first while I was still trying to salvaged what I could from the friend. I blew that set soo hard, as it turns out then went to their friend who was standing near Yummy, and I proceeded to go sit back next to him. Yummy mentioned that they were laughing at me, and told their friend the odd question I asked them. :(
9) This place was cool it had a live band, and the first Singer a 19 yr old 6.5 with long brown hair was isolated a good part of the night after she was done. I approached her when she went to bar to talk to the bartender. I opened with, something like "Wow you can sing really good", and thanked me, and I proceeded ask her her age, and then moved into about how she got started and stuff. I went away for a bit, and then went back to her a while later, and asked if she was going to sing again, and if the person singing was part of her band. It was really hard to talk to her though because she was standing RIGHT next to the fucking bands and the music was
blaring and I can't talk that loud. But I thought it was going well, would have been better I prolly should have just tried to move her to a quieter location...
10) Brown hair 4 Girl sitting next to what appeared to be friends near the bathroom. When I came back I stopped and said to her "You look sooo bored" she agreed, and I think I moved into any other good bars around her. By then the place was starting to die down and getting late so I saw why she was like this.
Overall I had a blast at the bar, got to watch a bartender pour drinks blind folded, another 1 got up on the bar and started dancing to the song "Save a horse, ride a cowboy" with a horse mask on while another was in a cowboy outfit. The music was really good, and I got to get a better feel of the environment.
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