I met a co-worker yesterday in the employee lunchroom, there was a guy and then this black girl 6, cute, 21 yr old. I started up a conversation that would include all of us, it was something like I haven't seen any of you around here are you new? I was actually working an evening shift opposed to my normal morning shift which is the reason I haven't seen them before. The guy was new only about 2 months, while the Girl has been there about 6 months. From there I moved onto what departments they worked at, and before I knew it we all were in a conversation. A strange thing occurred those as we were getting to know each other, b-day's came up and the girl said Sept, I then said Oct, and the guy said Nov. In that order we revealed to each other, then we asked for days, and I started with 22nd, then the girl answered with the 23rd, and believe it or not the guy said the 24th.
Anyway I was changing the subject to music by taking out my phone and about to play a song from phone, when the guy had to get back to work, leaving me alone with the girl. She liked R&B and rap but I didn't have anything on my phone, although I like some of that music so I played something close to it. With the music playing I could now barely hear her when she asked me a question so I said let me move closer cause I can barely hear you now. So I sat right across from her instead of across the room like I was. The move turned out to one of the best things I could have done, in that we started having a real conversation now. It was going pretty well, and it seemed like she was interested in me, but when I did a future projection it seemed to change.
This is from what I remember how it happened:
She asked me what I was like in HS, and she mentioned she was somewhat of a tomboy
Me: "Ya I don't really see you in a frilly dress or anything"
Her: "Ya that's not really my thing"
Me: "So what would you wear if I asked you out on a date then?"
Her: She smiled bashfully, and was eating a sandwich at the time, so I caught her with her mouth full. When she was ready to speak she said "That might pose a problem, you see I have a BF"
Me: I immediately said as sincere as possible with a big smile on my face "I wasn't asking you out, I was just wondering" or something very similar to that. "Besides I don't date co-workers, it can get too messy"
Her: She said something in response to that like "oh ya I see what you mean" then continued with something like "well back to what I would wear... I'm not sure what I would wear." She was still smiling with her bashful face, I guess I took her for a surprise.
Now from what I can tell analyzing this, I would say that either I pushed it too fast, or perhaps it's the way I might have said it. We moved onto another topic after that and kept talking for quite a while before I had to get back to work. I probably should have still ended it with something like, "well you seem pretty cool" and went for a #close, but I didn't think of it at the time as someone else came in and started talking to her, leaving me out of the conversation. I knew I would see her later and did indeed see her later that night as I had to go around to all the cashiers (which she was) and collect hangers. Unfortunately when I got to her, she was on the phone, and taking care of customers. So no interaction occurred, Aside from the friendly Hi, and a smile from each of us.
Sunday, December 7, 2008
Thursday, October 16, 2008
Job Orientation
So today I went for part 2 of my new job's orientation and along with me was another male (19), and a female (20). This girl was about a 5.5, long black hair, really nice body, I'm talking tight ass, about C cup, I would say only about 100 pounds so skinny and tiny. Downsides that I found out as I spoke to her where: A Smoker, driving with only a permit (doesn't feel she needs license), didn't go to college, missing a tooth (It was on the top right side), also now that I think about it, her being 6 yrs younger than me might be a bit much, and lastly a tiny stud piercing just below her cheek near her mouth. Some cool things I liked were she had 20 tattoo's all over her body, she was an only child like me, also grew up with just her mom like me, her body.
Enough of all of that lets get into how this all started. I got there early the first day, and was told we were waiting on 2 others a male and female. Immediately I knew I had to start thinking PUA, and self prepared myself for some questions and ways to start talking. Thankfully she came first about 5 minutes before the male, so I opened her up with so are you going for position ________ too? She said no she was there for a cashier position. From there it really went well with back and forth questions, which unfortunately I don't remember. During our "training" I was thinking if I should after we were done to suggest that we go get a cup of coffee. I never did this but now thankful that I didn't. Two reasons I should have done this is 1) It would have been the right move to do, and 2) She mentioned that today our next meeting she was going to be busy after the training. However after getting to know her a more today I'm thankful because although I was attracted to her, I didn't want to spend any time or money on her.
So today I was actually pulled away from the other two to speak with my manager whom gave me my hours for the next two days that was the last I saw them. I was "training" with them while waiting for my manager, they were getting information about the register which I'm not doing. I decided thought before hand that and will do is if I see her again is to just be friendly, and ask her how the new job is going but really no more.
Enough of all of that lets get into how this all started. I got there early the first day, and was told we were waiting on 2 others a male and female. Immediately I knew I had to start thinking PUA, and self prepared myself for some questions and ways to start talking. Thankfully she came first about 5 minutes before the male, so I opened her up with so are you going for position ________ too? She said no she was there for a cashier position. From there it really went well with back and forth questions, which unfortunately I don't remember. During our "training" I was thinking if I should after we were done to suggest that we go get a cup of coffee. I never did this but now thankful that I didn't. Two reasons I should have done this is 1) It would have been the right move to do, and 2) She mentioned that today our next meeting she was going to be busy after the training. However after getting to know her a more today I'm thankful because although I was attracted to her, I didn't want to spend any time or money on her.
So today I was actually pulled away from the other two to speak with my manager whom gave me my hours for the next two days that was the last I saw them. I was "training" with them while waiting for my manager, they were getting information about the register which I'm not doing. I decided thought before hand that and will do is if I see her again is to just be friendly, and ask her how the new job is going but really no more.
Wednesday, October 8, 2008
Ferry Approach
This was an approach that took place back on August 24th. I've taken a break from all this Pick up stuff for the past few months as my mind has been focused on other things. In attempt to not forget anything that I have learned and to perhaps to be more active I decided to continue my blog with any approaches I have done, even thought it is a bit late.
This girl had a red shirt, and was a 5.0 with black hair. I was just going into NYC for something...? anyway I was outside leaning on the railing when I saw her taking pictures of the city with this fancy camera. I thought she was just another tourist, so I mentioned that the statue of liberty was coming up on our left if she wanted to take a shot of that. She thanked me, and told me she was a student doing a project for some class where she just had to take like 1000 pictures of anything. It would help if it was in a theme such as building or in her case she choose People. So she was just trying to take pictures of whatever, she talked back and forth for the whole trip about various things. About halfway through I volunteered my pose for one of her pictures, she thanked me. I was going to go for a number close and prolly should had for practice sake, but she wasn't remotely attractive to me, and I don't like to "pretend" I'm interested when I'm not. But overall it was a really good approach that lasted for almost 30 min.
This girl had a red shirt, and was a 5.0 with black hair. I was just going into NYC for something...? anyway I was outside leaning on the railing when I saw her taking pictures of the city with this fancy camera. I thought she was just another tourist, so I mentioned that the statue of liberty was coming up on our left if she wanted to take a shot of that. She thanked me, and told me she was a student doing a project for some class where she just had to take like 1000 pictures of anything. It would help if it was in a theme such as building or in her case she choose People. So she was just trying to take pictures of whatever, she talked back and forth for the whole trip about various things. About halfway through I volunteered my pose for one of her pictures, she thanked me. I was going to go for a number close and prolly should had for practice sake, but she wasn't remotely attractive to me, and I don't like to "pretend" I'm interested when I'm not. But overall it was a really good approach that lasted for almost 30 min.
Sunday, June 22, 2008
On the boardwalk
I decided to hit up south beach yesterday instead of going to my the bookstore as it was real nice out, and wanted to change things up a bit. As far as sets went it didn't go so well, but looking at it from enjoyment I had a pretty good time alone.
I decided to carry a book with me while I was going to be walking up and down the boardwalk and perhaps stop every so often to read, or use it as an excuse why I was out there. Since I was wearing long jeans I and sneakers the beach or saying that I was there to tan was out of the question.
So I started walking towards the pier where lots of people where fishing instead of towards the food stand, I figured I would go that way on the way back, and this boardwalk is very long too.
1) The first person I talked too, actually opened me, don't get any positive ideas it was a 41 (I think) yr old man. I stopped walking to text on my phone, and he was nearby and said something like "there a pain in the ass aren't they?" I said "Ya". When I was done texting I leaned on a nearby bench to try and send out a signal, I think he re-opened then with "You can't live with em and you can't live w/o them" I laughed and said ya. I decided to talk to him as to get me in the talkative mood, and was wondering if he was doing the same. We talked a bit out the beach, and how nice it was out, and some other stuff. He finally lit a cigarette and I wanted to continue to try and find GIRLS, so I said something like it was nice meeting you and said I was going to get going.
2) I saw a cute girl maybe a 6.5 laying face down on a chair near a live band, and a person that looked to be her mom on the phone sitting down on a nearby beach to her. I wanted and should have approached her, but felt weird cause she looked a bit young and if that was her mother it would have been awkward.
3) So continuing down the pier I get to the all the fishermen and there many poles. There wasn't any girls for some reason so I leaned on the railing to take in the nice view and sea air. I decided to talk to some of the guys there fishing, and we talked well about fishing for a good while. I came here for a reason to meet and talk to people so I might as well talk to these guys. I learned quite a bit about fishing there, such as you can only keep a fish that is a certain size like at least 12"; This is so the babies can grow up and can reproduce.
4) Finally a GIRL, I was walking down back the way I came, and saw an ice cream truck and said hey I'm going to get an ice cream cone damn it, I haven't had one in years. Now somehow fate would have it that I 7.5 brown haired girl ALONE ended up walking in front of me and was getting one as well. Unfortunately the ice cream truck was about 20 feet from the live band that finally started playing. I said I would open her, but found it hard to do so while I was standing behind her. I could have said something like "So many good things to eat how to choose, and then asked what she was getting", but I never think of these kind of things at the appropriate time. She actually got her cone and sat down on the bench nearby, where I sat down next to her after I got my cone. I opened with Kate Perry, then transitioned to what brought her there today. She said she was with her cousins and waiting for them or something, she then kind of turned away of me, and just licked her ice cream. I felt it went dead, that and I had a brain fart couldn't think of anything to say, in fact I only did the girl part of the routine. So it was short, but at least I talked to a girl while I was there.
After that I walked back to the entrance where I came from and sat down on a bench while I tried to think of what I wanted to do next. I really didn't want to walk up and down the boardwalk anywhere, and was enjoying the cool breeze and view from the bench. At some point that girl I opened passed by talking on the phone alone, guess she wasn't with cousins... I actually staying sitting for almost 45 minutes, just relaxing, and there was a cool breeze so regardless of wearing long pants and a dark shirt I was actually very comfortable.
I decided to carry a book with me while I was going to be walking up and down the boardwalk and perhaps stop every so often to read, or use it as an excuse why I was out there. Since I was wearing long jeans I and sneakers the beach or saying that I was there to tan was out of the question.
So I started walking towards the pier where lots of people where fishing instead of towards the food stand, I figured I would go that way on the way back, and this boardwalk is very long too.
1) The first person I talked too, actually opened me, don't get any positive ideas it was a 41 (I think) yr old man. I stopped walking to text on my phone, and he was nearby and said something like "there a pain in the ass aren't they?" I said "Ya". When I was done texting I leaned on a nearby bench to try and send out a signal, I think he re-opened then with "You can't live with em and you can't live w/o them" I laughed and said ya. I decided to talk to him as to get me in the talkative mood, and was wondering if he was doing the same. We talked a bit out the beach, and how nice it was out, and some other stuff. He finally lit a cigarette and I wanted to continue to try and find GIRLS, so I said something like it was nice meeting you and said I was going to get going.
2) I saw a cute girl maybe a 6.5 laying face down on a chair near a live band, and a person that looked to be her mom on the phone sitting down on a nearby beach to her. I wanted and should have approached her, but felt weird cause she looked a bit young and if that was her mother it would have been awkward.
3) So continuing down the pier I get to the all the fishermen and there many poles. There wasn't any girls for some reason so I leaned on the railing to take in the nice view and sea air. I decided to talk to some of the guys there fishing, and we talked well about fishing for a good while. I came here for a reason to meet and talk to people so I might as well talk to these guys. I learned quite a bit about fishing there, such as you can only keep a fish that is a certain size like at least 12"; This is so the babies can grow up and can reproduce.
4) Finally a GIRL, I was walking down back the way I came, and saw an ice cream truck and said hey I'm going to get an ice cream cone damn it, I haven't had one in years. Now somehow fate would have it that I 7.5 brown haired girl ALONE ended up walking in front of me and was getting one as well. Unfortunately the ice cream truck was about 20 feet from the live band that finally started playing. I said I would open her, but found it hard to do so while I was standing behind her. I could have said something like "So many good things to eat how to choose, and then asked what she was getting", but I never think of these kind of things at the appropriate time. She actually got her cone and sat down on the bench nearby, where I sat down next to her after I got my cone. I opened with Kate Perry, then transitioned to what brought her there today. She said she was with her cousins and waiting for them or something, she then kind of turned away of me, and just licked her ice cream. I felt it went dead, that and I had a brain fart couldn't think of anything to say, in fact I only did the girl part of the routine. So it was short, but at least I talked to a girl while I was there.
After that I walked back to the entrance where I came from and sat down on a bench while I tried to think of what I wanted to do next. I really didn't want to walk up and down the boardwalk anywhere, and was enjoying the cool breeze and view from the bench. At some point that girl I opened passed by talking on the phone alone, guess she wasn't with cousins... I actually staying sitting for almost 45 minutes, just relaxing, and there was a cool breeze so regardless of wearing long pants and a dark shirt I was actually very comfortable.
Saturday, June 21, 2008
Day 3 with E
Me and E had out D3 today (well last night), started off at the mini golf place, and I have to say it wasn't was fun as I normally would have during it mostly cause we didn't keep track of anything. We just went from hole to hole taking our few shots to get the ball in. I took this opportunity every few holes to really mess around such as: Played like a game of pool, blocked her ball from going in, knocking her ball out of the way to hit mine, things like these. I also made sure to kino as much as possible and did fine, but it seemed like we "Rushed" through the 16 holes (I don't understand why only 16) and when we were done I felt like ok well that was kinda fun, said "Lets go back to my place relax and watch a movie" she asked something like do you have any good ones, I told her about the movie I planned for us to watch which was "Serendipity". As we got close to my house I said "ya know what, I want to show you something" and we parked in front of my house then took a walk to my nearby beach and got to see part of the sunset that I planned on showing her. Just in time too, although the sun was only partially showing still nice and we sat on a bench, relaxed and talked a bit. Afterwards we went back to my place and I popped in the movie and we began to watch.
Oh by the way when we got to the beach I leaned in and kissed her for the first time that day, when I picked her up I went for a kiss on the lips but somehow got a cheek and a hug. But when I kissed her on the beach she had this BIG weird smile with her teeth showing like it was unexpected and not what she wanted. I played with her hair a bit too while we were sitting, and did some light kino, although I was trying to figure out how to do more. Afterwards we went back to my place place and I popped in movie and we both laid down on my bean bag.
Did all of my "Making out" techniques, neck kissing, sexual touching of arms and legs constantly, French kissed once (by request), I kinda did the lip sucking. But it seems like it couldn't go anywhere, at one point I was semi on top of her with our legs kinda entwined and I got "pushed" off somehow, she repositioned herself and I wasn't on her anymore. The French kiss was weird, I tried a few times to stick my tongue in her mouth but it wouldn't open and I would giggle. At one point she said "what's so funny?" I said nothing, and she pushed the question I said "I don't know, I'm not sure" about a minute later I tried to do it again, and giggled again and told her "Ya know what I know whats funny, I'm hurting my back by trying to kiss you in this position" She said something like "oh I'm sorry your back hurts" and I repositioned and continued to kiss her. I realized though what I really was giggling about was that she sucked at kissing, and that this was getting no where, not sure why I thought that was funny but oh well.
After a while I got really uncomfortable in my position of being on her right side, and thought I would have a better position to make out on the other side, that and my arm was falling asleep holding her in that position. So I told her I wanted to switch sides, we did and I waited a while before I moved in again. At some point I realized that this wasn't going to work while watching the movie as we both were getting into to so I figured I would wait until the end, and just keep touching her in the mean time. I tried stopping every so often as to maybe get that "tease" going where she would miss my kino, but that didn't seem to affect her at all. In fact I don't think that it turned her on exactly, I did it was sensual as possible and just like I used to do with Alania.
After the movie I really went in for "pushing" the making out as much as I could, somewhere in there she repositioned herself and sort of pushed me away in the process. That was the end of the kissing at my place, but got 3 kisses in the car when I dropped her off at her house. So after that we kind of just laid there relaxed and talked a bit, and I made sure that I felt no uncomfortable silences. She reinitated the conversation a few times and I remember her saying at one point "Next time we hand out we should go to the city". Finally she said "Lets get some coffee" I looked at the time, really didn't want to get coffee or spend anymore time with her, and knew if we left the place that would the end of it, but said sure. We sat for a minute to discuss which Starbucks might be open at 10:30, and decided that one of which was kinda close might be open and we took off to go see. It was and she got tea, and I got my tall Moca Frap which is prolly the only reason I'm still up now (midnight) typing all this shit. We drank and we talked, I did some light kino on her leg since we were sitting perpendicular to each other at a table. Then we finally finished up and I drove her home, we mostly listened to music on the drive home, with light talking.
When she was leaving the car she said thank you, and mentioned something like "I'll give you a call sometime" I don't know if that was her way of saying "Don't call me, I'll call you". Overall I really only had a so so time, got basically no where sexually, and felt she felt the same. I don't particularly want to see her again and at this point in time don't think I will. Now I just have to figure out what to say to her the next time she messages or calls me. I'm thinking now that I might just put her in the Lets just be friends zone because at this point I don't think it's going to go anywhere. Plus another date isn't exactly what I'm looking for, so I think hanging out whenever would be more likely.
Oh by the way when we got to the beach I leaned in and kissed her for the first time that day, when I picked her up I went for a kiss on the lips but somehow got a cheek and a hug. But when I kissed her on the beach she had this BIG weird smile with her teeth showing like it was unexpected and not what she wanted. I played with her hair a bit too while we were sitting, and did some light kino, although I was trying to figure out how to do more. Afterwards we went back to my place place and I popped in movie and we both laid down on my bean bag.
Did all of my "Making out" techniques, neck kissing, sexual touching of arms and legs constantly, French kissed once (by request), I kinda did the lip sucking. But it seems like it couldn't go anywhere, at one point I was semi on top of her with our legs kinda entwined and I got "pushed" off somehow, she repositioned herself and I wasn't on her anymore. The French kiss was weird, I tried a few times to stick my tongue in her mouth but it wouldn't open and I would giggle. At one point she said "what's so funny?" I said nothing, and she pushed the question I said "I don't know, I'm not sure" about a minute later I tried to do it again, and giggled again and told her "Ya know what I know whats funny, I'm hurting my back by trying to kiss you in this position" She said something like "oh I'm sorry your back hurts" and I repositioned and continued to kiss her. I realized though what I really was giggling about was that she sucked at kissing, and that this was getting no where, not sure why I thought that was funny but oh well.
After a while I got really uncomfortable in my position of being on her right side, and thought I would have a better position to make out on the other side, that and my arm was falling asleep holding her in that position. So I told her I wanted to switch sides, we did and I waited a while before I moved in again. At some point I realized that this wasn't going to work while watching the movie as we both were getting into to so I figured I would wait until the end, and just keep touching her in the mean time. I tried stopping every so often as to maybe get that "tease" going where she would miss my kino, but that didn't seem to affect her at all. In fact I don't think that it turned her on exactly, I did it was sensual as possible and just like I used to do with Alania.
After the movie I really went in for "pushing" the making out as much as I could, somewhere in there she repositioned herself and sort of pushed me away in the process. That was the end of the kissing at my place, but got 3 kisses in the car when I dropped her off at her house. So after that we kind of just laid there relaxed and talked a bit, and I made sure that I felt no uncomfortable silences. She reinitated the conversation a few times and I remember her saying at one point "Next time we hand out we should go to the city". Finally she said "Lets get some coffee" I looked at the time, really didn't want to get coffee or spend anymore time with her, and knew if we left the place that would the end of it, but said sure. We sat for a minute to discuss which Starbucks might be open at 10:30, and decided that one of which was kinda close might be open and we took off to go see. It was and she got tea, and I got my tall Moca Frap which is prolly the only reason I'm still up now (midnight) typing all this shit. We drank and we talked, I did some light kino on her leg since we were sitting perpendicular to each other at a table. Then we finally finished up and I drove her home, we mostly listened to music on the drive home, with light talking.
When she was leaving the car she said thank you, and mentioned something like "I'll give you a call sometime" I don't know if that was her way of saying "Don't call me, I'll call you". Overall I really only had a so so time, got basically no where sexually, and felt she felt the same. I don't particularly want to see her again and at this point in time don't think I will. Now I just have to figure out what to say to her the next time she messages or calls me. I'm thinking now that I might just put her in the Lets just be friends zone because at this point I don't think it's going to go anywhere. Plus another date isn't exactly what I'm looking for, so I think hanging out whenever would be more likely.
Day 2 with E
This was on 6-14-08 I just didn't get around to actually posting anything as I was keeping it private. But I decided to share some information on how D2 went before I could post how D3 went.
Ok so I finally went out with E... The date itself went pretty fine and fun. We started off having her come to my place to get familiar with it, so it's not some crazy unknown place when I bring her back later. All went well there, she came in I went to the bathroom and put on some cologne and then we left. I kinoed on the leg several times during all the car trips we took, I decided to take us to the pool hall and we played for a couple of hours, lots of talking and kino went on.
Moving on... from the pool hall I suggested we get something to eat cause I was hungry so we stopped at a diner on the way back to my place. We talked a lot about food, mostly that I don't even remember. No kino happened cause we were sitting across from one another. Took her picture after I showed her a pic of my cat, and she then took a pic of me on her phone. From there we finally came back to my place where I had mentioned I would show her my tropical fish. I have a screen saver that is of tropical fish and looks real too, she liked it when she came in :P
This is where things started to get weird, I knew that I was supposed to kiss her at the pool hall and just couldn't fit it in naturally. So when I was playing the question game I was going to ask her if she wanted to kiss me, but we got off topic and it ended pre-maturely. So I pointed over to my fish while I got a bit settled then came up to her. I told her to come here, and pulled her close while putting my hands on her hip and kissed her. I got no response... NONE what so ever, not even a kiss back or any pushing forward on her part when I moved in for the kiss. I don't remember what happened into between that 1st kiss and the 2nd kiss but I then showed her my Bean bag.
I told her that you have to sit on it, it's really comfy and as she was trying to say "I don't know" or something I said your light right? and semi picked her up and threw her on it. I laid down next to her at first not right up on her. I think We talked about something for a second then I kissed her again. Now every time I kiss her I get nothing but the same smile she was given me all night long, no resistance, or any indication that she is enjoying it, or to press forward. I finally said, let me put on some music, and I get up and ask if she likes classical music. I pull out a CD and let it start playing, then lay right next to her this time on the bean bag with my arm kinda under her head. She asked for the CD case before I came back and wanted to see if she recognized any of the songs, and I asked her if she knew how to play
any instruments and we talked lightly on that for a bit. I lean in and kiss her again, I then say to tilt her head and I proceed to kiss her neck once. I was really starting to feel awkward at this point in time, and think is when I finally mentioned something like you give no resistance, I might have even said at this time "This feels awkward, I don't know why?". I think then I kissed her neck a few times and her
again. I remember at some point that I realized she was holding my hand as I was holding hers, and I was rubbing it and moved my other hand to rub her other hand. I mentioned what happened her hand at some point as it was ruff, she said it was dry or something, and i think I kissed her again.
Also I remember at some point I also mentioned some of these things:
Me: "what are you thinking about" Her: "Nothing"
Me: "You look like you have something on your mind" Her: "No"
Me: "are you sure your not having naughty thoughts?" Her: I don't even remember getting ANY response, just that same smile I was getting throughout.
Me: "Why don't you take off your shoes and relax a bit" Her: "I am relaxed" as she moved her arms above her head in a stretching position.
Finally I couldn't take being uncomfortable and didn't know where to take this. But little did I know it was the single most stupidest thing I could have done. I got up and said I want to show you something, I pulled out a Magic the Gathering Deck and laid out a few cards on the table for her to see. I mentioned that this was the game, and I briefly mentioned what you need to do to win. I think after that she moved to topic to something like "You have to get up early don't you?" or "I'm getting tired and have to get going" something like that shit. I tried to keep her as long as I could as I didn't want her to leave yet, but at the same time I was relieved and needed to get sleep anyway. She did mention a few times and again before she left that she had fun, and we should do it again sometime.
From what I gathered at the time she really wasn't enjoying any of the sexual stuff as I got ZERO response back, but Yummy just said that I should have just pushed it as far she would have let me. That her giving me zero resistance was her way of saying to just take her. I felt very awkward and weird, it didn't feel mutual or fun for me. I needed a verbal or physical or ANY IOI to press forward. I'm sure Yummy is right in his advice but even as I think about it, I feel awkward and not even sure what exactly I would have done to press forward. Would I have rubbed her stomach, her breasts? I could have said something like "take off your shirt it's wet" (It was raining). But nooo none of this shit ever comes to me at the time when I need it. I was and the truth is I guess I felt at the time that I was just another AFC, but I shouldn't have, but I realize this all too late. We'll see how big I messed up when I try contacting her for a follow up date on Monday for a Friday "date". Not sure what I can do with her, and if we do get back to my place will she expect a repeat? Will I unintentionally repeat myself?
I realize now that I felt nothing for her, I'm still feeling things for Alania, and still miss her. Perhaps I received no emotion back when I kissed her is because she felt none for me as well. How can I move onto another girl if I truly haven't moved on?
I figured out why I felt nothing when I kissed her, I know I should stop comparing her to Alania, and didn't think I would ever compare anything but hear me out on this. When I kissed Alania for the first time there was that stereotypical "magic" and "sparks" that whole deal, it was special and we both felt a click. When I kissed E, there was nothing, I felt nothing. I felt this before when I kissed Alania for
the last time, because there was no love in it, there was nothing, I remember even crying afterwards and during the kiss :(
Ok so I finally went out with E... The date itself went pretty fine and fun. We started off having her come to my place to get familiar with it, so it's not some crazy unknown place when I bring her back later. All went well there, she came in I went to the bathroom and put on some cologne and then we left. I kinoed on the leg several times during all the car trips we took, I decided to take us to the pool hall and we played for a couple of hours, lots of talking and kino went on.
Moving on... from the pool hall I suggested we get something to eat cause I was hungry so we stopped at a diner on the way back to my place. We talked a lot about food, mostly that I don't even remember. No kino happened cause we were sitting across from one another. Took her picture after I showed her a pic of my cat, and she then took a pic of me on her phone. From there we finally came back to my place where I had mentioned I would show her my tropical fish. I have a screen saver that is of tropical fish and looks real too, she liked it when she came in :P
This is where things started to get weird, I knew that I was supposed to kiss her at the pool hall and just couldn't fit it in naturally. So when I was playing the question game I was going to ask her if she wanted to kiss me, but we got off topic and it ended pre-maturely. So I pointed over to my fish while I got a bit settled then came up to her. I told her to come here, and pulled her close while putting my hands on her hip and kissed her. I got no response... NONE what so ever, not even a kiss back or any pushing forward on her part when I moved in for the kiss. I don't remember what happened into between that 1st kiss and the 2nd kiss but I then showed her my Bean bag.
I told her that you have to sit on it, it's really comfy and as she was trying to say "I don't know" or something I said your light right? and semi picked her up and threw her on it. I laid down next to her at first not right up on her. I think We talked about something for a second then I kissed her again. Now every time I kiss her I get nothing but the same smile she was given me all night long, no resistance, or any indication that she is enjoying it, or to press forward. I finally said, let me put on some music, and I get up and ask if she likes classical music. I pull out a CD and let it start playing, then lay right next to her this time on the bean bag with my arm kinda under her head. She asked for the CD case before I came back and wanted to see if she recognized any of the songs, and I asked her if she knew how to play
any instruments and we talked lightly on that for a bit. I lean in and kiss her again, I then say to tilt her head and I proceed to kiss her neck once. I was really starting to feel awkward at this point in time, and think is when I finally mentioned something like you give no resistance, I might have even said at this time "This feels awkward, I don't know why?". I think then I kissed her neck a few times and her
again. I remember at some point that I realized she was holding my hand as I was holding hers, and I was rubbing it and moved my other hand to rub her other hand. I mentioned what happened her hand at some point as it was ruff, she said it was dry or something, and i think I kissed her again.
Also I remember at some point I also mentioned some of these things:
Me: "what are you thinking about" Her: "Nothing"
Me: "You look like you have something on your mind" Her: "No"
Me: "are you sure your not having naughty thoughts?" Her: I don't even remember getting ANY response, just that same smile I was getting throughout.
Me: "Why don't you take off your shoes and relax a bit" Her: "I am relaxed" as she moved her arms above her head in a stretching position.
Finally I couldn't take being uncomfortable and didn't know where to take this. But little did I know it was the single most stupidest thing I could have done. I got up and said I want to show you something, I pulled out a Magic the Gathering Deck and laid out a few cards on the table for her to see. I mentioned that this was the game, and I briefly mentioned what you need to do to win. I think after that she moved to topic to something like "You have to get up early don't you?" or "I'm getting tired and have to get going" something like that shit. I tried to keep her as long as I could as I didn't want her to leave yet, but at the same time I was relieved and needed to get sleep anyway. She did mention a few times and again before she left that she had fun, and we should do it again sometime.
From what I gathered at the time she really wasn't enjoying any of the sexual stuff as I got ZERO response back, but Yummy just said that I should have just pushed it as far she would have let me. That her giving me zero resistance was her way of saying to just take her. I felt very awkward and weird, it didn't feel mutual or fun for me. I needed a verbal or physical or ANY IOI to press forward. I'm sure Yummy is right in his advice but even as I think about it, I feel awkward and not even sure what exactly I would have done to press forward. Would I have rubbed her stomach, her breasts? I could have said something like "take off your shirt it's wet" (It was raining). But nooo none of this shit ever comes to me at the time when I need it. I was and the truth is I guess I felt at the time that I was just another AFC, but I shouldn't have, but I realize this all too late. We'll see how big I messed up when I try contacting her for a follow up date on Monday for a Friday "date". Not sure what I can do with her, and if we do get back to my place will she expect a repeat? Will I unintentionally repeat myself?
I realize now that I felt nothing for her, I'm still feeling things for Alania, and still miss her. Perhaps I received no emotion back when I kissed her is because she felt none for me as well. How can I move onto another girl if I truly haven't moved on?
I figured out why I felt nothing when I kissed her, I know I should stop comparing her to Alania, and didn't think I would ever compare anything but hear me out on this. When I kissed Alania for the first time there was that stereotypical "magic" and "sparks" that whole deal, it was special and we both felt a click. When I kissed E, there was nothing, I felt nothing. I felt this before when I kissed Alania for
the last time, because there was no love in it, there was nothing, I remember even crying afterwards and during the kiss :(
Tuesday, June 10, 2008
Yummy & Me Day 1
Ok well technically it's not the first time we got together, but it was the first time we spent most of the day doing this (3 hours at the mall, and another 3 at a bar). Plus I was hooked up to a recorder so I can listen back to see how much of an idiot I sounded like :P and should be very helpful too. I should also apologize and mention that this was on Saturday, and been lazy so I haven't written this till now. These 5 we did while walking around the mall, which we found out is something while having a wing with you is harder. Only because you have 2 people walking side by side, the set that I approach knows thats he's already with me, so to have to come in a bit later is for lack of a better word weird.
1) This first set demonstrated this theory very well as many things went wrong. I opened while me and him were leaning on a railing, and a 2 Set(blonde's a 6 & 7) came up the escalator. When I opened with my Kate Perry Routine, he went somewhere else, but the set already knew he was with me. I then transitioned to "how they knew each other", and the rest is a bit of a blur, guess I'll have to listen to the tape on exactly what happened. But anyway I signaled for Yummy to come in, I turned to him and said "Hey".I then introduced him to them saying "This is my friend Yummy" and then pointed to my target, and said "Oh, I didn't get your name, what was it?" she replied with something like "Thats cause we didn't give it", I think at that point she said something like "This feels like it's a set up" and they started giggling and left. Yummy started to laugh a bit too, since it was true, but I had a nervous feeling all throughout my body, and didn't laugh about it until later. I was more in a state of shock of wow I didn't expect that.
(Will update the rest of this when I hear the audio)
2) In a store 7.5 black hair
3) Hired Gun - Proactive Cart girl, 6.5 brown hair
4) 2 set "The Girls"
5) Bookstore a black girl 6 reading a book relating to vampires
6) Technically this was Yummy's Set but I have to mention it, because I messed it up.
Apparently when someone has their target locked in, I am not to converse with them at all. He tried on 3 occasions to # close, and I happened to butt in right at those moments. It wasn't on purpose and his target was asking me questions so I replied. This set was my 2 favorite Hired Guns in one spot, the cream girls as I will refer to them. The first one, Yummy's target (a 7.5 with black hair) and my obstacle (7 red head). I had him open these girls to see how he interacts with them and keep there sales at bay, while working game. As I've mentioned in the past I've interacted with them on a # of occasions, the 7.5 got me to buy a $55 dollar cream back in April. He did a great job, but I had a hard time keeping mine from working her stuff. Although she wasn't working it on me, she was pulling guys walking by cause she already knows I'm not buying anything.
The Bar
6) Opened a 3 set all went to same HS as me, so I opened with. "Hey didn't you go to HS Name?" The girl I opened that was closest to me, had a green shirt (5 red head) asked me how old I was, I think I just fell into it and told her, w/o making her guess (don't remember). She then went on to say that she was 4 yrs older than me, but her sister (striped shirt 4.5) and last girl in the yellow shirt (6.5) were the same age as me, so I prolly went to school with them. I don't remember if I said anything else, but I kind of screwed my self, I opened sitting down on the bar, and Yummy was sitting next to me and he was next to them so HE had the better advantage to really open them. So when I did I tapped the green shirt girl on her shoulder and remained
sitting. So when she was "done" with me, she turned to her friends that Yummy had opened and I was stuck still sitting all awkwardly. As it happens this set we interacted with throughout the night, I was trying to talk to the Yellow shirt girl, but for some reason the fugly one of the group took a liking to me, and put her arm around my shoulder and my hand was on her waist before I knew what even hit me. Mind you she was totally plastered, and we "danced" a bit, and I had her do a few twirls. To make matters worst they all smoked, so they tended to smell a lot of that and alcohol. But I was trying to figure out if I wanted to try and push this girl further into making out. I didn't want to stick around as they were constantly looking for her sister in the green shirt who ran off with a guy, that and I really wasn't into her at all.
7) 2 set (6's blondish hair & black hair)sitting next to me at the bar, opened with something like "Do you know if this place is always this busy on a Saturday? Transitioned to how they knew each other? Moved into if they knew of any other bars that might be popular (I think).
8) 2 set (7.5, 6 blonde's I think) standing around, opened with a horrible opening :( "Do you know of any better bars than this one?" Now this place was already packed so it was really bad and the way it came off was really poorly. Moved into if they knew of any other bars that might be popular. The Blonde left first while I was still trying to salvaged what I could from the friend. I blew that set soo hard, as it turns out then went to their friend who was standing near Yummy, and I proceeded to go sit back next to him. Yummy mentioned that they were laughing at me, and told their friend the odd question I asked them. :(
9) This place was cool it had a live band, and the first Singer a 19 yr old 6.5 with long brown hair was isolated a good part of the night after she was done. I approached her when she went to bar to talk to the bartender. I opened with, something like "Wow you can sing really good", and thanked me, and I proceeded ask her her age, and then moved into about how she got started and stuff. I went away for a bit, and then went back to her a while later, and asked if she was going to sing again, and if the person singing was part of her band. It was really hard to talk to her though because she was standing RIGHT next to the fucking bands and the music was
blaring and I can't talk that loud. But I thought it was going well, would have been better I prolly should have just tried to move her to a quieter location...
10) Brown hair 4 Girl sitting next to what appeared to be friends near the bathroom. When I came back I stopped and said to her "You look sooo bored" she agreed, and I think I moved into any other good bars around her. By then the place was starting to die down and getting late so I saw why she was like this.
Overall I had a blast at the bar, got to watch a bartender pour drinks blind folded, another 1 got up on the bar and started dancing to the song "Save a horse, ride a cowboy" with a horse mask on while another was in a cowboy outfit. The music was really good, and I got to get a better feel of the environment.
1) This first set demonstrated this theory very well as many things went wrong. I opened while me and him were leaning on a railing, and a 2 Set(blonde's a 6 & 7) came up the escalator. When I opened with my Kate Perry Routine, he went somewhere else, but the set already knew he was with me. I then transitioned to "how they knew each other", and the rest is a bit of a blur, guess I'll have to listen to the tape on exactly what happened. But anyway I signaled for Yummy to come in, I turned to him and said "Hey".I then introduced him to them saying "This is my friend Yummy" and then pointed to my target, and said "Oh, I didn't get your name, what was it?" she replied with something like "Thats cause we didn't give it", I think at that point she said something like "This feels like it's a set up" and they started giggling and left. Yummy started to laugh a bit too, since it was true, but I had a nervous feeling all throughout my body, and didn't laugh about it until later. I was more in a state of shock of wow I didn't expect that.
(Will update the rest of this when I hear the audio)
2) In a store 7.5 black hair
3) Hired Gun - Proactive Cart girl, 6.5 brown hair
4) 2 set "The Girls"
5) Bookstore a black girl 6 reading a book relating to vampires
6) Technically this was Yummy's Set but I have to mention it, because I messed it up.
Apparently when someone has their target locked in, I am not to converse with them at all. He tried on 3 occasions to # close, and I happened to butt in right at those moments. It wasn't on purpose and his target was asking me questions so I replied. This set was my 2 favorite Hired Guns in one spot, the cream girls as I will refer to them. The first one, Yummy's target (a 7.5 with black hair) and my obstacle (7 red head). I had him open these girls to see how he interacts with them and keep there sales at bay, while working game. As I've mentioned in the past I've interacted with them on a # of occasions, the 7.5 got me to buy a $55 dollar cream back in April. He did a great job, but I had a hard time keeping mine from working her stuff. Although she wasn't working it on me, she was pulling guys walking by cause she already knows I'm not buying anything.
The Bar
6) Opened a 3 set all went to same HS as me, so I opened with. "Hey didn't you go to HS Name?" The girl I opened that was closest to me, had a green shirt (5 red head) asked me how old I was, I think I just fell into it and told her, w/o making her guess (don't remember). She then went on to say that she was 4 yrs older than me, but her sister (striped shirt 4.5) and last girl in the yellow shirt (6.5) were the same age as me, so I prolly went to school with them. I don't remember if I said anything else, but I kind of screwed my self, I opened sitting down on the bar, and Yummy was sitting next to me and he was next to them so HE had the better advantage to really open them. So when I did I tapped the green shirt girl on her shoulder and remained
sitting. So when she was "done" with me, she turned to her friends that Yummy had opened and I was stuck still sitting all awkwardly. As it happens this set we interacted with throughout the night, I was trying to talk to the Yellow shirt girl, but for some reason the fugly one of the group took a liking to me, and put her arm around my shoulder and my hand was on her waist before I knew what even hit me. Mind you she was totally plastered, and we "danced" a bit, and I had her do a few twirls. To make matters worst they all smoked, so they tended to smell a lot of that and alcohol. But I was trying to figure out if I wanted to try and push this girl further into making out. I didn't want to stick around as they were constantly looking for her sister in the green shirt who ran off with a guy, that and I really wasn't into her at all.
7) 2 set (6's blondish hair & black hair)sitting next to me at the bar, opened with something like "Do you know if this place is always this busy on a Saturday? Transitioned to how they knew each other? Moved into if they knew of any other bars that might be popular (I think).
8) 2 set (7.5, 6 blonde's I think) standing around, opened with a horrible opening :( "Do you know of any better bars than this one?" Now this place was already packed so it was really bad and the way it came off was really poorly. Moved into if they knew of any other bars that might be popular. The Blonde left first while I was still trying to salvaged what I could from the friend. I blew that set soo hard, as it turns out then went to their friend who was standing near Yummy, and I proceeded to go sit back next to him. Yummy mentioned that they were laughing at me, and told their friend the odd question I asked them. :(
9) This place was cool it had a live band, and the first Singer a 19 yr old 6.5 with long brown hair was isolated a good part of the night after she was done. I approached her when she went to bar to talk to the bartender. I opened with, something like "Wow you can sing really good", and thanked me, and I proceeded ask her her age, and then moved into about how she got started and stuff. I went away for a bit, and then went back to her a while later, and asked if she was going to sing again, and if the person singing was part of her band. It was really hard to talk to her though because she was standing RIGHT next to the fucking bands and the music was
blaring and I can't talk that loud. But I thought it was going well, would have been better I prolly should have just tried to move her to a quieter location...
10) Brown hair 4 Girl sitting next to what appeared to be friends near the bathroom. When I came back I stopped and said to her "You look sooo bored" she agreed, and I think I moved into any other good bars around her. By then the place was starting to die down and getting late so I saw why she was like this.
Overall I had a blast at the bar, got to watch a bartender pour drinks blind folded, another 1 got up on the bar and started dancing to the song "Save a horse, ride a cowboy" with a horse mask on while another was in a cowboy outfit. The music was really good, and I got to get a better feel of the environment.
Wednesday, June 4, 2008
Post # 31
I have finally reached a point where going to my favorite bookstore, and local mall so often during that week that mentioned Day # whatever is irrelevant. I find this especially true as I have slow days and off days, and may find one at a certain location and another somewhere else. So how do I classify or name my posts from here on out? If I can think of anything specific to a certain instance such as a workshop or meeting that I visit, or a random girl that I chat up here and there and actually counts toward a conversation or that I find interesting, those ones shall have specific titles. So for now I think I'll stick with the post #, or perhaps something like "Approach Log #". Ya I like that, but since this one has some rants in it, I'll keep it as it's current title. So with that out of the way on to the sets.
1) As I pulled up to the bookstore, there was another car in front of me, and pulled into a spot on a curve, and there was an empty one right next to her that I thought was fine. She however did not pull in correctly and made it difficult for me to pull in next to her, so I tried to decided if I wanted to wait for her to fix her car, or just pull next to her and then have her fix the car. I did the latter as I wanted to park, and thats when I noticed her a 7.5 with long brown hair very beautiful. I tried to take my time gathering my things before exiting the car to try and time things with her coming out of the car at the same time so I could mention something how she parked. But she was taking her sweet as time fixing her car, and then taking even longer before she got out. So as to not make things weird I got out and headed for the bookstore. I didn't do my normal "rounds" around the place before taking my seat, instead I looked over the bottom floor slightly then took my seat. I did this partially because I wanted to give that girl sometime to get settled and such. As luck would have it I see her go to the coffee counter and order a drink, I'm at my favorite spot by the napkins reading and scouting around when I saw her. She didn't see me until she got close in my range. I tried to word this w/o coming off as needy or too AFC, and thought of exactly what to say.
Me: "Hey, I'm sorry I parked so close to your car" I actually parked closer to the car on my other side so she wouldn't hit mine.
Her: Smiling, something like "oh, it's ok"
Me: "I should have waited until you finished parking"
Her: "Oh, it was no problem" but she was kinda laughing and smiling back.
What I said next, I said as a test and do believe that I was very confident in my saying it. As I've been trying to get enough courage to try it, and have a good opportunity to do so.
Me: "Why don't you sit and join me for a bit?"
Her: Something like "Oh well I can't stay I have work on stuff" maybe she said study instead of work, not quite sure.
Me: "Your telling me you don't have even have time to just relax and enjoy your coffee?"
Her: "Well no, I will, but I have get going and do something" Not quite exactly what she said but I am 120% sure she said something at the very end. Her voice sounded hesitant as if she was making it up as she went along, but with a slight smirk to her face, as if she was considering it.
Me: "Well you have a good day"
Her: "You too", she continued to get napkins for a few seconds and then, as she was leaving I heard a very low "Bye".
Now my thoughts on that, I think personally there wasn't anything wrong with what I said or how I may have said it. I do know that when I was making my rounds upstairs (twice) I saw her sitting on a couch reading. But I suppose there could have been any number of reasons why she didn't sit, unless anyone can think of anything specific from what I've said that stands out. Any comments or suggestions would be helpful, moving on.
2)I think I'm going to keep any names I get from now on out, as to keep it private for some unknown reason to myself, but as respect to these girls, that and I don't even know how to spell this one. Funny think about rating scales I got my how I think they look when I see then, but as you get to sit and chat with them that scale can shift. I gave her a 6.5 when I saw her, but after I sat there and talked with her for 1/2 hour I mentally changed it to a 7, long brown hair. She was a mix of Israeli, Russian, & Dominican and was fluent in all those except Dominican, her English was excellent only a slight Canadian accent. I felt very attached to this particular girl because I felt a REAL connection with her, but I'm hurt inside as I will most likely never see her again. I know thats some short term one-itis BS and I'm already coping with the fact that I have to move on from her. So why did I get so attached to this girl in such a short amount of time? I'm not entirely sure, but this is how it went, more or less.
I started off with Kate Perry Routine, then transitioned to something like "So what are you reading?". Note she was sitting on the floor leaning on a bookshelf reading, and I stood there for 5-10 min before I actually decided to sit down. We started talking and talking, in fact she was re-initiating the conversation in between pauses asking things about like, like whats my story and such. We both shared very personal things in a very short amount of time. Some topics we covered: Travel, Out jobs and where she works, nationalities, languages, fate & destiny, religion, relationships and our marriages to be more specific. Yep she's married, at least from what she said, and perhaps when it came to the #close I should have pushed harder as I saw no ring, but thought it could have been a # of reason why she didn't wear one. I won't bother to list them all or even some of them, but when she spoke of him I felt it was real. It's hard to explain, but nonetheless I did try the #close, and she said something "like I told you I'm married". I responded with something like "So? we can still hang out", she went on about how her husband is very overprotective, how it would look bad if she went out with some guy. I finally said something like well bring him along then, I don't know why I said that but I did. She still went on and on, and said she can't, I just said "Fine", and tried to talk about something else before I left.
3)At the mall I went into one of those cool shops with new gadgets and things, and sat down in a very comfortable recliner right next to 6 black girl who was also in one. I started off with something like that looks really comfy I have to try. When I finally got situated I said something like "Did you have a long day as well?" she said something about dancing the day before and was sore all over. It wasn't a fluent conversation as she kept trying to relax and so was I, it was so comfy. But I jokingly mentioned "I wonder how long we can stay her before they kick us out" She laughed. I don't really remember much, and there wasn't much I really said anyway, just wasn't really in the mood to talk at the time for some reason, I blame the massage chair.
1) As I pulled up to the bookstore, there was another car in front of me, and pulled into a spot on a curve, and there was an empty one right next to her that I thought was fine. She however did not pull in correctly and made it difficult for me to pull in next to her, so I tried to decided if I wanted to wait for her to fix her car, or just pull next to her and then have her fix the car. I did the latter as I wanted to park, and thats when I noticed her a 7.5 with long brown hair very beautiful. I tried to take my time gathering my things before exiting the car to try and time things with her coming out of the car at the same time so I could mention something how she parked. But she was taking her sweet as time fixing her car, and then taking even longer before she got out. So as to not make things weird I got out and headed for the bookstore. I didn't do my normal "rounds" around the place before taking my seat, instead I looked over the bottom floor slightly then took my seat. I did this partially because I wanted to give that girl sometime to get settled and such. As luck would have it I see her go to the coffee counter and order a drink, I'm at my favorite spot by the napkins reading and scouting around when I saw her. She didn't see me until she got close in my range. I tried to word this w/o coming off as needy or too AFC, and thought of exactly what to say.
Me: "Hey, I'm sorry I parked so close to your car" I actually parked closer to the car on my other side so she wouldn't hit mine.
Her: Smiling, something like "oh, it's ok"
Me: "I should have waited until you finished parking"
Her: "Oh, it was no problem" but she was kinda laughing and smiling back.
What I said next, I said as a test and do believe that I was very confident in my saying it. As I've been trying to get enough courage to try it, and have a good opportunity to do so.
Me: "Why don't you sit and join me for a bit?"
Her: Something like "Oh well I can't stay I have work on stuff" maybe she said study instead of work, not quite sure.
Me: "Your telling me you don't have even have time to just relax and enjoy your coffee?"
Her: "Well no, I will, but I have get going and do something" Not quite exactly what she said but I am 120% sure she said something at the very end. Her voice sounded hesitant as if she was making it up as she went along, but with a slight smirk to her face, as if she was considering it.
Me: "Well you have a good day"
Her: "You too", she continued to get napkins for a few seconds and then, as she was leaving I heard a very low "Bye".
Now my thoughts on that, I think personally there wasn't anything wrong with what I said or how I may have said it. I do know that when I was making my rounds upstairs (twice) I saw her sitting on a couch reading. But I suppose there could have been any number of reasons why she didn't sit, unless anyone can think of anything specific from what I've said that stands out. Any comments or suggestions would be helpful, moving on.
2)I think I'm going to keep any names I get from now on out, as to keep it private for some unknown reason to myself, but as respect to these girls, that and I don't even know how to spell this one. Funny think about rating scales I got my how I think they look when I see then, but as you get to sit and chat with them that scale can shift. I gave her a 6.5 when I saw her, but after I sat there and talked with her for 1/2 hour I mentally changed it to a 7, long brown hair. She was a mix of Israeli, Russian, & Dominican and was fluent in all those except Dominican, her English was excellent only a slight Canadian accent. I felt very attached to this particular girl because I felt a REAL connection with her, but I'm hurt inside as I will most likely never see her again. I know thats some short term one-itis BS and I'm already coping with the fact that I have to move on from her. So why did I get so attached to this girl in such a short amount of time? I'm not entirely sure, but this is how it went, more or less.
I started off with Kate Perry Routine, then transitioned to something like "So what are you reading?". Note she was sitting on the floor leaning on a bookshelf reading, and I stood there for 5-10 min before I actually decided to sit down. We started talking and talking, in fact she was re-initiating the conversation in between pauses asking things about like, like whats my story and such. We both shared very personal things in a very short amount of time. Some topics we covered: Travel, Out jobs and where she works, nationalities, languages, fate & destiny, religion, relationships and our marriages to be more specific. Yep she's married, at least from what she said, and perhaps when it came to the #close I should have pushed harder as I saw no ring, but thought it could have been a # of reason why she didn't wear one. I won't bother to list them all or even some of them, but when she spoke of him I felt it was real. It's hard to explain, but nonetheless I did try the #close, and she said something "like I told you I'm married". I responded with something like "So? we can still hang out", she went on about how her husband is very overprotective, how it would look bad if she went out with some guy. I finally said something like well bring him along then, I don't know why I said that but I did. She still went on and on, and said she can't, I just said "Fine", and tried to talk about something else before I left.
3)At the mall I went into one of those cool shops with new gadgets and things, and sat down in a very comfortable recliner right next to 6 black girl who was also in one. I started off with something like that looks really comfy I have to try. When I finally got situated I said something like "Did you have a long day as well?" she said something about dancing the day before and was sore all over. It wasn't a fluent conversation as she kept trying to relax and so was I, it was so comfy. But I jokingly mentioned "I wonder how long we can stay her before they kick us out" She laughed. I don't really remember much, and there wasn't much I really said anyway, just wasn't really in the mood to talk at the time for some reason, I blame the massage chair.
Monday, June 2, 2008
First # Close
Her name is not important right now and will be referred to as E, a 6 with black hair and glasses. I saw her in the bookstore looking around, and I was pretty far when I saw her so was making my way to her. When I got into her proximity range he moved away, to look at books in a different isle and would look as if I was chasing after her if I continued in that direction. So I stopped where she was, and looked around a bit more, and lost which way she went. So I started on my way down the escalators and to my surprise she came on behind me, but it's funny cause I didn't realize it at first I heard someone get on behind me but didn't notice, so while I was going down I turned around and saw it was her.
So I opened with my Kate Perry Routine, I had trouble trying to maintain eye contact for that little while as I opened while we were still going down and didn't want to fall flat on my face when it stopped so I kept checking when the ground was coming. When we got off I shifted a bit to the side to make room for others coming down, and continued the routine. I transitioned into what brought her there today, she mentioned something like just some books, so I followed up with well what kind of books she was looking for or into. From there we talked back and forth about a few things such as where she was from, school and job. I also remember mentioning to her as she was swinging her headphones back and forth in her hands, "so what are you trying to listen too?", and quickly got on the topic of music. I love it when things transition easily and naturally, and I actually think of things to say, since thats my biggest problem.
About a few minutes into that conversation I said "Why don't we sit down and talk for a bit" or something on those lines, and we went a headed towards the seats. I picked a nice 2 seat not near anyone else so we were pretty isolated, I was very happy. We talked back and forth for a bit more, and I moved the talking into a "routine" that I read about in the VAH where you figure out life experiences that you like and find out what those emotions are and the end result is that you find out why you like doing certain things, and that it's the emotions more or less that you like than the experience itself. It's funny cause when I started it I never did it before in fact only partly remembered how it even went so I started off by saying "I read an article somewhere about...". I went on about something I don't even remember exactly but told her I thought it was interesting and wanted to try it or something. It went fairly well I got to learn a bit about her, although her particular "thing" wasn't something that was easy to work off of to associate and emotion too, but I winged it as much as I could.
After that we talked some more and unfortunately those tables are too big to do any kino across from so I had to figure out a way to move in closer to kino, and we have already been talking for a while so I felt we were in comfort. I then did the cube, she like it and said that I right about a lot of things, but for some reason she had issues keeping her eyes closed as I was going through it. I feel it's best to do that as you can really stay focused visualize the scene, but I did kino her leg throughout and when we kept opening her eyes I would tap her leg and say "Now close your eyes". She was smiling through the whole thing, but did mention when I got to part 4 of 5 something on the lines of "Is this almost over", I thought that was weird as I've read on the forums of that happening to guys but never had that problem myself. I blame her as she was making it longer as she kept opening her eyes when she was describing things and using her hands. Regardless we got through it and she liked it, then I think we talked for a bit more.
I finally moved in with "Well ya know you seem pretty cool, we should hang out sometime" Brief pause (DOH) "Lets exchange #'s" and I pulled out my phone, and she pulled out her phone to my surprise and was going to put in mine, but I said "Let me see your phone", and handed her mine. We both had issues trying to figure out how to put in a new contact for each others phone which was kind of funny cause mine was simple, but hers was complicated so we kept helping each other till we finally got to put each others # in. We exchanged back finally, and I somehow got these words out of my mouth more or less "Well the 1st phone call is always the most awkward so lets it get it out of the way now" and I called her. She was smiling and I was smiling as she said Hi, and I said hello, but there was that awkwardness still but was funny, and the she said something like "Ok well cya later" I don't remember exactly.
Lastly I think I said one more thing as to not do the get the # and run effect, but remember saying after that "Well I have to get back to my studying, I'm going for the police test" or something on those lines. I should have just asked her if she was hungry and moved to C2 as I had planned to do with a girl if I ever had the chance to do it, and move her to a pizza place that is within walking distance. But I did ask her before she parted if she like pool at all, she said ya, but wasn't very good. So I said to her "Well maybe we'll go someday" or something on those lines. Overall it went great, slightly disappointed in that she was only a 6 in fact as I write this I can barely remember what she even looks like :(
So I opened with my Kate Perry Routine, I had trouble trying to maintain eye contact for that little while as I opened while we were still going down and didn't want to fall flat on my face when it stopped so I kept checking when the ground was coming. When we got off I shifted a bit to the side to make room for others coming down, and continued the routine. I transitioned into what brought her there today, she mentioned something like just some books, so I followed up with well what kind of books she was looking for or into. From there we talked back and forth about a few things such as where she was from, school and job. I also remember mentioning to her as she was swinging her headphones back and forth in her hands, "so what are you trying to listen too?", and quickly got on the topic of music. I love it when things transition easily and naturally, and I actually think of things to say, since thats my biggest problem.
About a few minutes into that conversation I said "Why don't we sit down and talk for a bit" or something on those lines, and we went a headed towards the seats. I picked a nice 2 seat not near anyone else so we were pretty isolated, I was very happy. We talked back and forth for a bit more, and I moved the talking into a "routine" that I read about in the VAH where you figure out life experiences that you like and find out what those emotions are and the end result is that you find out why you like doing certain things, and that it's the emotions more or less that you like than the experience itself. It's funny cause when I started it I never did it before in fact only partly remembered how it even went so I started off by saying "I read an article somewhere about...". I went on about something I don't even remember exactly but told her I thought it was interesting and wanted to try it or something. It went fairly well I got to learn a bit about her, although her particular "thing" wasn't something that was easy to work off of to associate and emotion too, but I winged it as much as I could.
After that we talked some more and unfortunately those tables are too big to do any kino across from so I had to figure out a way to move in closer to kino, and we have already been talking for a while so I felt we were in comfort. I then did the cube, she like it and said that I right about a lot of things, but for some reason she had issues keeping her eyes closed as I was going through it. I feel it's best to do that as you can really stay focused visualize the scene, but I did kino her leg throughout and when we kept opening her eyes I would tap her leg and say "Now close your eyes". She was smiling through the whole thing, but did mention when I got to part 4 of 5 something on the lines of "Is this almost over", I thought that was weird as I've read on the forums of that happening to guys but never had that problem myself. I blame her as she was making it longer as she kept opening her eyes when she was describing things and using her hands. Regardless we got through it and she liked it, then I think we talked for a bit more.
I finally moved in with "Well ya know you seem pretty cool, we should hang out sometime" Brief pause (DOH) "Lets exchange #'s" and I pulled out my phone, and she pulled out her phone to my surprise and was going to put in mine, but I said "Let me see your phone", and handed her mine. We both had issues trying to figure out how to put in a new contact for each others phone which was kind of funny cause mine was simple, but hers was complicated so we kept helping each other till we finally got to put each others # in. We exchanged back finally, and I somehow got these words out of my mouth more or less "Well the 1st phone call is always the most awkward so lets it get it out of the way now" and I called her. She was smiling and I was smiling as she said Hi, and I said hello, but there was that awkwardness still but was funny, and the she said something like "Ok well cya later" I don't remember exactly.
Lastly I think I said one more thing as to not do the get the # and run effect, but remember saying after that "Well I have to get back to my studying, I'm going for the police test" or something on those lines. I should have just asked her if she was hungry and moved to C2 as I had planned to do with a girl if I ever had the chance to do it, and move her to a pizza place that is within walking distance. But I did ask her before she parted if she like pool at all, she said ya, but wasn't very good. So I said to her "Well maybe we'll go someday" or something on those lines. Overall it went great, slightly disappointed in that she was only a 6 in fact as I write this I can barely remember what she even looks like :(
Sunday, June 1, 2008
Yummy to the rescue
My friend Yummystalebread, finally got a small fraction of his very busy schedule to help watch me open a few sets at my favorite bookstore. This time around though he picked the targets and ordered me to just go, which was helpful and a bit harder than I had in my mind to follow. I did 3/4 girls he picked, which was pretty much all of the single sets in the entire place over the coarse of an hours time, if that.
1)4.5 Fugly girl with glasses and brown hair. Opened with Kate Perry, got through the whole thing, but she was trying to constantly move away but I persisted to the end, and then just thanked her at the end as she was trying to walk away anyway. That and I couldn't stand looking at her anymore anyway, and really didn't even want to try and transition.
2)Blonde 7 came in with a BF, but separated and I managed to be lucky enough to get her alone. It's funny cause I kept mentioning to him if I should go, and he was just looking around aimlessly until he saw her, and just made that wonderful order GO!. So I went and opened her with Kate Perry as well, it went alright. Seeing how I only got through the girl part, and dropped the guy part out due to some modifications yummy suggested and my other new modifications I had made previously left me with nothing to say. That and the fact that he mentioned that I paused after she responded and didn't follow up with anything else so she was walking away. I might have thanked her, don't remember.
3)A 5 with yucky yucky pimples all over her face, very hard to look at. But after much pushing and shoving from yummy I approached. Opened with Kate Perry and it ended when it was over, not even sure what else I said if anything after the girl part since that is all is really left of the routine. But from his point of view I was getting IOI's, she was smiling a bit. Oh I remember, I had stopped right in front of the exit and people were trying to leave, so I said to her we needed to move a bit, and I continued the routine.
Overall it went ok, if I got this much done in like an hour, I can't wait to see how much I can get done with a day with him. Whenever that will be :(
I should also point out that he helped me find some major flaws with the way I was even approaching girl, particularly moving sets which is why I was having such a hard time with them. He also spoke his opinion regarding my particular Kate Perry routine, which is that of "It's a fine opinion opener", but I definally need to work on the way that I'm approaching.
1)4.5 Fugly girl with glasses and brown hair. Opened with Kate Perry, got through the whole thing, but she was trying to constantly move away but I persisted to the end, and then just thanked her at the end as she was trying to walk away anyway. That and I couldn't stand looking at her anymore anyway, and really didn't even want to try and transition.
2)Blonde 7 came in with a BF, but separated and I managed to be lucky enough to get her alone. It's funny cause I kept mentioning to him if I should go, and he was just looking around aimlessly until he saw her, and just made that wonderful order GO!. So I went and opened her with Kate Perry as well, it went alright. Seeing how I only got through the girl part, and dropped the guy part out due to some modifications yummy suggested and my other new modifications I had made previously left me with nothing to say. That and the fact that he mentioned that I paused after she responded and didn't follow up with anything else so she was walking away. I might have thanked her, don't remember.
3)A 5 with yucky yucky pimples all over her face, very hard to look at. But after much pushing and shoving from yummy I approached. Opened with Kate Perry and it ended when it was over, not even sure what else I said if anything after the girl part since that is all is really left of the routine. But from his point of view I was getting IOI's, she was smiling a bit. Oh I remember, I had stopped right in front of the exit and people were trying to leave, so I said to her we needed to move a bit, and I continued the routine.
Overall it went ok, if I got this much done in like an hour, I can't wait to see how much I can get done with a day with him. Whenever that will be :(
I should also point out that he helped me find some major flaws with the way I was even approaching girl, particularly moving sets which is why I was having such a hard time with them. He also spoke his opinion regarding my particular Kate Perry routine, which is that of "It's a fine opinion opener", but I definally need to work on the way that I'm approaching.
My Feet Hurt
My Feet Hurt, thats the best way I can describe how my day went yesterday, aside from opening 10+ sets. Not all are listed though, but it was basically me, N Wing, and his wing (R Wing) going around different places in the city. It was very educational and had fun, but we did do an excessive amount of walking, so towards the end I was having to stop often as I'm not used to walking that much. All these sets aside from 1 I did completely alone, but enough of introductions lets just move into the sets.
1)Two set, young like 6's. I noticed that they were standing next to N Wing with their backs to him, while he was talking to some guy on the street, I was leaning on a building looking for a set to open. So I finally said fuck it, and approached them and did Kate Perry, it went pretty descent I was going to move into "how do you know each other" but during the routine they mentioned that they were sisters. I was sort of a lose for words and I think I asked them if they knew of any good bars / clubs.
2)Two set, looking at some shoes or something. I opened with Kate Perry, and it didn't go well at all, I don't even think I finished it, when my N Wing called me helped me bail though cause it was going no where fast.
3)An 8.5 Hispanic or maybe black, not entirely sure, but we all agreed on how hot she was, and got complimented for even approaching afterwards. She was in line to get some food like this grocery store or something, and I opened with my Kate Perry Routine, at first I think she didn't quite understand the questions but I persisted and pushed it through. I'm sure she saw how nervous I was, but tried to be as confident as possible, and tried to make it as natural as I could. I mentioned part of the modified version I was working on, but got shot down with "Thats a bit personal", so I continued on with the older version. Overall it didn't go terribly bad, but didn't go quite well either, I might have even gotten a smile don't remember.
4)Hired Gun holding some books and looking at shelf, this is the 2nd fucking time that I opened a hired gun without intending too because her badge was being covered by all the fucking books. Anyway I ran Kate Perry with the modified version and got the same response as the other one "Thats a bit personal" or something on those lines, then she walked away. Now I don't have a problem doing hired guns, in fact I like them, but I have to watch out for their fake IOI's and normally try to make sure they aren't watching me game others.
5)A Black haired 8 that was 19, applying for a job at the bookstore I we were all in. This one went really well, I should have tried to #close. I ran Kate Perry, and moved into what she was doing there today or something, and found out she was applying for the job, and she something on the lines of "I don't know what to put for: Reason I least want to work here".
Me: "Put down how the pay is crap"
Her: Laughs, "I can't put that"
Me: "Then put the travel time is too far."
Her: Laughs, "But it isn't"
Me: "They don't have to know that"
Her: "Travel time it is" as she types it in, smiling and giving me that look of good idea.
We talked about a few other things like where she lived, and what school she was going to. At the very end she mentioned something about her BF, but I brushed it off and said something else. Also I should point out that I was body rocking for the first time about to leave, but not on purpose I was really trying to leave but not to get out of the interaction it was more of I thought we were done like so many times before. But I actually was thinking of things to say, and she would reinitiate the conversation. Like I said I should have tried to #close but not sure why I didn't maybe it was AA, maybe it was cause she mentioned the BF even though it was meaningless.
6)We finally made it back to the other book store we started off at, and I decided to try the tarot cards routine with a slight twist. The difference was that I told this red head 6.5 that I wanted to prove to my friend (my wing) that I could do just as good of job w/o having any real knowledge about this stuff. She agreed and he stood by to help any questions I had and filled in some blanks for me. Overall it went really well, I did a pretty good job she said, and was surprised and happy about the whole thing. My wing did a full interpretation after I was done and clarified any loose ends, and the girl told us her story and how everything really clicked. It happened to be about her BF that she is wanted to marry but is worried about commitment, and we both agreed it was best to not try an #close her. But after the reading was done we did talk lightly on what brought her there and such. But I had fun, was really nervous at first thought but got into the whole thing.
7)This was on the street right as I got off the train on my way to the ferry, I saw this 3 set of 7's walking ahead of me. One of them "bumped into" one of those orange cone thingy's but it wasn't a cone shape. So I said loud enough for them to here me from behind them, "I saw that it came out of no where and hit you" smiling and kinda laughing in the process. They did the same, so then I came up on the side of them and said "Ya will totally testify for you". They said something about it too, and then I said "so where you guys headed?" Only one girl in the middle seemed to really be talking but they were all interacting, but she said "Brooklyn", and I told them where I was headed. We talked about SI for a bit, she asked how big it was, and I said with great pride and confidence "35 by 7". They said something like "oh wow", from there I think I transitioned to any good bars / clubs question, and they might have mentioned something I don't remember.
8)This was quite funny, I was sitting down waiting for the ferry at the terminal and had like 1/2 wait. For some reason something came over me, I was realizing the fact that I'm becoming a social butterfly, although I still like to be in my cocoon. But at the time I was bored, I wanted to talk to someone where as 2 months ago all I would have wanted were some headphones to listen to the music on my phone. So I looked around for a while and no one, finally this blonde 5.5 sits on the wall, with a sad look to her, and not crying but kind of sniffling. So I got up and went over and said "Hey, how's it going? Do you mind if I sit?" She said ya or sure or something, and I sat down. I then turned to her and said "You ok?" or something like that, and she just turned to me and said "I don't want to talk to you". I was more sad at the fact that I didn't have anyone to talk to rather than being upset that I just got shot down, cause I really was fucking bored and wanted to talk to someone. So I just sat there next to her for 2 reasons, 1) My seat was taken as soon as I got up, and 2) I didn't give a fuck, I felt no embarrassment or anything.
9)I sat down on the front of the ferry next to this 6.5 brown haired Latin chick with headphone on loud enough to make someone seriously deaf. So after the boat started moving a bit and it got quiet, I taped her on the shoulder and asked her what was the name of the song that I was listening too (yes I could even hear lyrics). She said Neo or something and showed me the ipod shuffle thingy she had, and proceeded to put her headphones back into her ears. So I said something like "Wow, I'm surprised that your not deaf from that." she said something like I'm used to listening to it this loud with a smile and laughing. I was about to ask her if she was heading home, when she put her damn headphones back in. I guess she was done with me, so I sat there waiting, relaxing, taking in the cool breeze, and enjoying the music :) Finally I heard her lower the music for something, or was changing songs and I said "Do you have that song by Kate Perry "I kissed a girl"? No response she definally heard me, but was just ignoring me at that point, oh well, I didn't care really I just wanted to talk to someone.
10)I Finally made my way to the SIR, sat down facing forward, and a 6.0 red head sits down right in front of me (perpendicular to me). So I waited a stop or 2 after the train started moving and opened up with "Can I ask you a question?" she said ya, with a very tired and uninterested look to her. I asked her if she was in business or something cause she was kinda in girl dress clothes you would wear in an office. We actually talked for a long time, like 70% of my total trip about all diff things. Some topics we covered was the job she was doing, and mine (cough:unemployment:cough), what nationality she was, which was Iranian or something. We also talked how long she was living here and that she came from Asia, and we joked around how I really didn't know much about geography and stuff. But I got her laughing and smiling, and it was pretty cool. I didn't feel like a connection of that one would #close with, and also that she was upper 20's and was only really trying to talk for something to do, and pass the time.
So in conclusion I had a very long and tiring, yet fun day, and learned a lot. By the time I got home it was 11ish, as the travel took a while to get home, and forgot that my car wasn't by the train station so I had to walk about another 20 minutes to get home :(
1)Two set, young like 6's. I noticed that they were standing next to N Wing with their backs to him, while he was talking to some guy on the street, I was leaning on a building looking for a set to open. So I finally said fuck it, and approached them and did Kate Perry, it went pretty descent I was going to move into "how do you know each other" but during the routine they mentioned that they were sisters. I was sort of a lose for words and I think I asked them if they knew of any good bars / clubs.
2)Two set, looking at some shoes or something. I opened with Kate Perry, and it didn't go well at all, I don't even think I finished it, when my N Wing called me helped me bail though cause it was going no where fast.
3)An 8.5 Hispanic or maybe black, not entirely sure, but we all agreed on how hot she was, and got complimented for even approaching afterwards. She was in line to get some food like this grocery store or something, and I opened with my Kate Perry Routine, at first I think she didn't quite understand the questions but I persisted and pushed it through. I'm sure she saw how nervous I was, but tried to be as confident as possible, and tried to make it as natural as I could. I mentioned part of the modified version I was working on, but got shot down with "Thats a bit personal", so I continued on with the older version. Overall it didn't go terribly bad, but didn't go quite well either, I might have even gotten a smile don't remember.
4)Hired Gun holding some books and looking at shelf, this is the 2nd fucking time that I opened a hired gun without intending too because her badge was being covered by all the fucking books. Anyway I ran Kate Perry with the modified version and got the same response as the other one "Thats a bit personal" or something on those lines, then she walked away. Now I don't have a problem doing hired guns, in fact I like them, but I have to watch out for their fake IOI's and normally try to make sure they aren't watching me game others.
5)A Black haired 8 that was 19, applying for a job at the bookstore I we were all in. This one went really well, I should have tried to #close. I ran Kate Perry, and moved into what she was doing there today or something, and found out she was applying for the job, and she something on the lines of "I don't know what to put for: Reason I least want to work here".
Me: "Put down how the pay is crap"
Her: Laughs, "I can't put that"
Me: "Then put the travel time is too far."
Her: Laughs, "But it isn't"
Me: "They don't have to know that"
Her: "Travel time it is" as she types it in, smiling and giving me that look of good idea.
We talked about a few other things like where she lived, and what school she was going to. At the very end she mentioned something about her BF, but I brushed it off and said something else. Also I should point out that I was body rocking for the first time about to leave, but not on purpose I was really trying to leave but not to get out of the interaction it was more of I thought we were done like so many times before. But I actually was thinking of things to say, and she would reinitiate the conversation. Like I said I should have tried to #close but not sure why I didn't maybe it was AA, maybe it was cause she mentioned the BF even though it was meaningless.
6)We finally made it back to the other book store we started off at, and I decided to try the tarot cards routine with a slight twist. The difference was that I told this red head 6.5 that I wanted to prove to my friend (my wing) that I could do just as good of job w/o having any real knowledge about this stuff. She agreed and he stood by to help any questions I had and filled in some blanks for me. Overall it went really well, I did a pretty good job she said, and was surprised and happy about the whole thing. My wing did a full interpretation after I was done and clarified any loose ends, and the girl told us her story and how everything really clicked. It happened to be about her BF that she is wanted to marry but is worried about commitment, and we both agreed it was best to not try an #close her. But after the reading was done we did talk lightly on what brought her there and such. But I had fun, was really nervous at first thought but got into the whole thing.
7)This was on the street right as I got off the train on my way to the ferry, I saw this 3 set of 7's walking ahead of me. One of them "bumped into" one of those orange cone thingy's but it wasn't a cone shape. So I said loud enough for them to here me from behind them, "I saw that it came out of no where and hit you" smiling and kinda laughing in the process. They did the same, so then I came up on the side of them and said "Ya will totally testify for you". They said something about it too, and then I said "so where you guys headed?" Only one girl in the middle seemed to really be talking but they were all interacting, but she said "Brooklyn", and I told them where I was headed. We talked about SI for a bit, she asked how big it was, and I said with great pride and confidence "35 by 7". They said something like "oh wow", from there I think I transitioned to any good bars / clubs question, and they might have mentioned something I don't remember.
8)This was quite funny, I was sitting down waiting for the ferry at the terminal and had like 1/2 wait. For some reason something came over me, I was realizing the fact that I'm becoming a social butterfly, although I still like to be in my cocoon. But at the time I was bored, I wanted to talk to someone where as 2 months ago all I would have wanted were some headphones to listen to the music on my phone. So I looked around for a while and no one, finally this blonde 5.5 sits on the wall, with a sad look to her, and not crying but kind of sniffling. So I got up and went over and said "Hey, how's it going? Do you mind if I sit?" She said ya or sure or something, and I sat down. I then turned to her and said "You ok?" or something like that, and she just turned to me and said "I don't want to talk to you". I was more sad at the fact that I didn't have anyone to talk to rather than being upset that I just got shot down, cause I really was fucking bored and wanted to talk to someone. So I just sat there next to her for 2 reasons, 1) My seat was taken as soon as I got up, and 2) I didn't give a fuck, I felt no embarrassment or anything.
9)I sat down on the front of the ferry next to this 6.5 brown haired Latin chick with headphone on loud enough to make someone seriously deaf. So after the boat started moving a bit and it got quiet, I taped her on the shoulder and asked her what was the name of the song that I was listening too (yes I could even hear lyrics). She said Neo or something and showed me the ipod shuffle thingy she had, and proceeded to put her headphones back into her ears. So I said something like "Wow, I'm surprised that your not deaf from that." she said something like I'm used to listening to it this loud with a smile and laughing. I was about to ask her if she was heading home, when she put her damn headphones back in. I guess she was done with me, so I sat there waiting, relaxing, taking in the cool breeze, and enjoying the music :) Finally I heard her lower the music for something, or was changing songs and I said "Do you have that song by Kate Perry "I kissed a girl"? No response she definally heard me, but was just ignoring me at that point, oh well, I didn't care really I just wanted to talk to someone.
10)I Finally made my way to the SIR, sat down facing forward, and a 6.0 red head sits down right in front of me (perpendicular to me). So I waited a stop or 2 after the train started moving and opened up with "Can I ask you a question?" she said ya, with a very tired and uninterested look to her. I asked her if she was in business or something cause she was kinda in girl dress clothes you would wear in an office. We actually talked for a long time, like 70% of my total trip about all diff things. Some topics we covered was the job she was doing, and mine (cough:unemployment:cough), what nationality she was, which was Iranian or something. We also talked how long she was living here and that she came from Asia, and we joked around how I really didn't know much about geography and stuff. But I got her laughing and smiling, and it was pretty cool. I didn't feel like a connection of that one would #close with, and also that she was upper 20's and was only really trying to talk for something to do, and pass the time.
So in conclusion I had a very long and tiring, yet fun day, and learned a lot. By the time I got home it was 11ish, as the travel took a while to get home, and forgot that my car wasn't by the train station so I had to walk about another 20 minutes to get home :(
Friday, May 30, 2008
Homework Complete
Tonight my balls grew 3x as big as they were, as I broke in my new shoes and finally went to some bars ALONE. Yes it's true, I surprised even myself but somehow I got enough courage to go do it. Perhaps it was motivation after watching "Jumper" or perhaps I was finally ready, who knows. Ok so lets get into them shall we.
1)The Shithole
It was small and empty, and had older people there, no young crowd at all. I spoke with this guy first asking him if he knew of any good bars around here, or in the city. He could only suggest the village in the city wherever the fuck that it, and said to ask the 3 set that was right by us and whom he was talking to I guess. So I asked the 3 set also all older people like 30's they had no clue and were fucking useless as well, in fact as I was leaving the only girl there said "Hey if you find any good places let us know", ya not going back there ever. Although it's a shame too, it was closest one to my house :(
2)Who calls thing saloons anymore?
Pretty big place, the biggest of the 3 and it had a live band too, very nice and packed. So I go in and open this 2 set by the bar right off the bat. Girl 1 a 7 black curly hair, girl 2 a 6 brown hair in a pony tail. Started off with "Hey, do you know any good clubs around her?" and then later asked about the city, but they mentioned 2 in particular to try (dugout, chicken bones, and any other bar on forest ave). After we were done talking about that I asked how knew each other, and they replied with a laugh "for like ever, since grade school". There were very brief silences here and there, but the 7 kept reinstating the conversation perhaps I got her interest, but I tried to think of more to say. I mentioned that I just moved back from AZ, and we spoke of something else I can't remember now. But if I could have thought of more, such as my Kate Perry Routine I might have started up more of a conversation. As I said I felt that I was getting IOI's from the 7 so I wanted to stay, but I thanked them and moved on to the next bar on the list.
3)Who would talk about this town?
This place was kinda small unless there was more to it, because of how fucking packed it was, definally the busiest of them all. So I go in and there is a girl with a drink standing next to a crowd and I opened her, I thought it was a whole set. He must have been drinking a while cause I smelled it on her breath, but she was a 7 with black curly hair. He mentioned off the bat another bar that was supposed to around the corner from where I was but wasn't about to go check it out I already had enough. She however mentioned 2 clubs in the city (Sol, The Grand), and also for bars to head to forest ave (recurring theme here), and a website to check out with popular up to date bars / clubs. After that she asked me who I was with and when I told her no one it surprised her and she had a big smile, also someone whom I was getting plenty of IOI's from, so I followed up with so who are you here with. She just waved her hand in front of her saying I know lots of people here and there. So at this point I got the impression that I managed to find a single set, pretty, and already giving me IOI's so I did what would any PUA would do? Game her until I took her home. I wish that's what I did but alas I was out of things to say with her as well, and "Had to go", so I thanked her for her help as well and left. She wished me luck on my way out.
Overall I thought I accomplished much, although I should have tried to push myself farther. I did have one other bar on my list to go to but it was forest ave, and it was already getting late, and since I already had plenty of recommendations to go there, I'll just make it a point to head there sometime with a wing.
1)The Shithole
It was small and empty, and had older people there, no young crowd at all. I spoke with this guy first asking him if he knew of any good bars around here, or in the city. He could only suggest the village in the city wherever the fuck that it, and said to ask the 3 set that was right by us and whom he was talking to I guess. So I asked the 3 set also all older people like 30's they had no clue and were fucking useless as well, in fact as I was leaving the only girl there said "Hey if you find any good places let us know", ya not going back there ever. Although it's a shame too, it was closest one to my house :(
2)Who calls thing saloons anymore?
Pretty big place, the biggest of the 3 and it had a live band too, very nice and packed. So I go in and open this 2 set by the bar right off the bat. Girl 1 a 7 black curly hair, girl 2 a 6 brown hair in a pony tail. Started off with "Hey, do you know any good clubs around her?" and then later asked about the city, but they mentioned 2 in particular to try (dugout, chicken bones, and any other bar on forest ave). After we were done talking about that I asked how knew each other, and they replied with a laugh "for like ever, since grade school". There were very brief silences here and there, but the 7 kept reinstating the conversation perhaps I got her interest, but I tried to think of more to say. I mentioned that I just moved back from AZ, and we spoke of something else I can't remember now. But if I could have thought of more, such as my Kate Perry Routine I might have started up more of a conversation. As I said I felt that I was getting IOI's from the 7 so I wanted to stay, but I thanked them and moved on to the next bar on the list.
3)Who would talk about this town?
This place was kinda small unless there was more to it, because of how fucking packed it was, definally the busiest of them all. So I go in and there is a girl with a drink standing next to a crowd and I opened her, I thought it was a whole set. He must have been drinking a while cause I smelled it on her breath, but she was a 7 with black curly hair. He mentioned off the bat another bar that was supposed to around the corner from where I was but wasn't about to go check it out I already had enough. She however mentioned 2 clubs in the city (Sol, The Grand), and also for bars to head to forest ave (recurring theme here), and a website to check out with popular up to date bars / clubs. After that she asked me who I was with and when I told her no one it surprised her and she had a big smile, also someone whom I was getting plenty of IOI's from, so I followed up with so who are you here with. She just waved her hand in front of her saying I know lots of people here and there. So at this point I got the impression that I managed to find a single set, pretty, and already giving me IOI's so I did what would any PUA would do? Game her until I took her home. I wish that's what I did but alas I was out of things to say with her as well, and "Had to go", so I thanked her for her help as well and left. She wished me luck on my way out.
Overall I thought I accomplished much, although I should have tried to push myself farther. I did have one other bar on my list to go to but it was forest ave, and it was already getting late, and since I already had plenty of recommendations to go there, I'll just make it a point to head there sometime with a wing.
Mall Approachs
For some reason I had a pretty slow day, started at the bookstore, and got bored after 2 hours and zero approaches, so I moved to the mall. When I got there I think it was about 1/2 hour before I finally got my first one for the day.
1)Girl sitting on bench, an 8 with brown hair and blonde streaks. Opened with Kate Perry and implemented the new minor changes that I made to it, and was a success. But not sure if it was the changes or the fact that she was sitting, it has proven to work better on stationary targets. We'll see more on Saturday when I go out with wing again if the newer changes have any effect. Anyway I moved very smoothly into asking her if she knew of any good bars / clubs to go to on Friday night, she said none on the island, but recommended 3 clubs in the city (Pachaa, Guest House, and Home). I was getting lots of IOI's from this girl, and I know I was definally smiling back with her, I started to transition to something else, but she got a buzz on her phone that she was holding and said she had to get back to work, and taped my leg as she got up. If that wasn't an IOI then I don't know what is, but she got on her phone right away and started to walk away and said "You should definally check out Pachaa tonight". I wanted to ask her where she worked and was leaving in such a rush but didn't get to as she was already on the phone. I continued to walk the direction I was already going (opposite of her direction) and looped back around the other way, thinking maybe I can catch her at work if I could find her. I found her... Leaving with another girl out of the mall. I didn't approach her, only saw her from behind off in the distance. But now I'm totally confused, was she really going to work but not in the mall? Was the IOI's fake?
2)Black hair 5.5 walking from behind me, not that fast at first. I opened with Kate Perry going the same speed as her, but I noticed that she was speeding up for some reason, perhaps to just get away I have no idea. So I ended it after the girl part, didn't even transition, thanked her and slowed my pace down to nothing.
3)Hired Gun Sales Girl, this is one that I haven't wrote about as I have interacted practically on some level ever time I got to the mall, with my wing as well. I would say she's a 7 arab, long brown hair, with a KICK ASS body. Now although this isn't the same sales girl that I stupidly bought that cream from, it is the same booth. So as the guy attempts to stop me, I brush him off and continue walking, but today I had a purpose I was going to try and talk to her w/o her BS sales pitch. When I first got there and we made eye contact, she asked me how I was doing, I said good, and asked her as well; So then I moved on to "why do you like this job so much?". I was going to move into "It must because you get to touch and interact with guys all day", but I didn't say that I totally forgot about that. So I talked about if she got paid on commission, and she does so I joked around saying so thats why your so pushy. It wasn't going as I had planned in my head so I was winging it the best I could, she started talking about products again, and even pointed to the crap one that I did buy. I told her it was BS and didn't work so she was fiddling around looking for another for my face. She started speaking with her co-worker in Hebrew, I responded with "Are you trying to plot against me, and kill me?" or something on those lines, she laughed and said "No, I was asking where a certain cream was". So now she running her game on me full fledge and asks me to take a seat, Now if it wasn't for the fact that I've already been walking around all fucking day I wouldn't have taken it, but my feet where killing me so I sat and played along. Might as well get a free demo as I think of things to say. But I finally got some baring again and remembered some things I was trying to talk to her about to get her off the sales pitch BS. I started with something like "So, how long do you have stay here?"
Her: "All day"
Me: "So, until the mall closes at 9:30?"
Her: "Yes normally but today I have to stay until 10"
Me: "So, don't you ever get to have a break?"
Her: "Ya I get a break at 3:00"
Me: "Where do you go eat?"
Her: "Right here in the food court"
Me: Looking at watch and seeing as it was like about to be 6, I've missed my opportunity for today. "Ok, well we should grab lunch one day"
Her: Something on the lines of sure, but with smiles and stuff, I don't believe any of the IOI's I really get from her, but I took it as a yes.
I started to lose control again as she started on about the product she was putting on me this whole time, and was saying how I only need to do it twice a week. I jumped on this opportunity, "Ok, well thats perfect I'll be coming back on Monday to get some shirts, you can do your bi-weekly demo on me, and then we'll grab some lunch". She started going about how she can't do that, and how I'm being cheap, and to buy her something at Victoria's Secret as a present for her putting the stuff on me. I just brushed that off with something like no, and she went on and on about "What am I cheap?". I was getting no where, and said something like "Ok, well fine since I'll be back Monday I'll just meet up for lunch with you". She responded with "I won't be here Monday it's my day off", I just said perhaps another day then. She was done, and I was done, and we parted. I wanted to at least get her damn name, but when I tried to mention it once during the conversation she brushed it off. At this point anyway I'm just trying to have some fun interacting and shit.
1)Girl sitting on bench, an 8 with brown hair and blonde streaks. Opened with Kate Perry and implemented the new minor changes that I made to it, and was a success. But not sure if it was the changes or the fact that she was sitting, it has proven to work better on stationary targets. We'll see more on Saturday when I go out with wing again if the newer changes have any effect. Anyway I moved very smoothly into asking her if she knew of any good bars / clubs to go to on Friday night, she said none on the island, but recommended 3 clubs in the city (Pachaa, Guest House, and Home). I was getting lots of IOI's from this girl, and I know I was definally smiling back with her, I started to transition to something else, but she got a buzz on her phone that she was holding and said she had to get back to work, and taped my leg as she got up. If that wasn't an IOI then I don't know what is, but she got on her phone right away and started to walk away and said "You should definally check out Pachaa tonight". I wanted to ask her where she worked and was leaving in such a rush but didn't get to as she was already on the phone. I continued to walk the direction I was already going (opposite of her direction) and looped back around the other way, thinking maybe I can catch her at work if I could find her. I found her... Leaving with another girl out of the mall. I didn't approach her, only saw her from behind off in the distance. But now I'm totally confused, was she really going to work but not in the mall? Was the IOI's fake?
2)Black hair 5.5 walking from behind me, not that fast at first. I opened with Kate Perry going the same speed as her, but I noticed that she was speeding up for some reason, perhaps to just get away I have no idea. So I ended it after the girl part, didn't even transition, thanked her and slowed my pace down to nothing.
3)Hired Gun Sales Girl, this is one that I haven't wrote about as I have interacted practically on some level ever time I got to the mall, with my wing as well. I would say she's a 7 arab, long brown hair, with a KICK ASS body. Now although this isn't the same sales girl that I stupidly bought that cream from, it is the same booth. So as the guy attempts to stop me, I brush him off and continue walking, but today I had a purpose I was going to try and talk to her w/o her BS sales pitch. When I first got there and we made eye contact, she asked me how I was doing, I said good, and asked her as well; So then I moved on to "why do you like this job so much?". I was going to move into "It must because you get to touch and interact with guys all day", but I didn't say that I totally forgot about that. So I talked about if she got paid on commission, and she does so I joked around saying so thats why your so pushy. It wasn't going as I had planned in my head so I was winging it the best I could, she started talking about products again, and even pointed to the crap one that I did buy. I told her it was BS and didn't work so she was fiddling around looking for another for my face. She started speaking with her co-worker in Hebrew, I responded with "Are you trying to plot against me, and kill me?" or something on those lines, she laughed and said "No, I was asking where a certain cream was". So now she running her game on me full fledge and asks me to take a seat, Now if it wasn't for the fact that I've already been walking around all fucking day I wouldn't have taken it, but my feet where killing me so I sat and played along. Might as well get a free demo as I think of things to say. But I finally got some baring again and remembered some things I was trying to talk to her about to get her off the sales pitch BS. I started with something like "So, how long do you have stay here?"
Her: "All day"
Me: "So, until the mall closes at 9:30?"
Her: "Yes normally but today I have to stay until 10"
Me: "So, don't you ever get to have a break?"
Her: "Ya I get a break at 3:00"
Me: "Where do you go eat?"
Her: "Right here in the food court"
Me: Looking at watch and seeing as it was like about to be 6, I've missed my opportunity for today. "Ok, well we should grab lunch one day"
Her: Something on the lines of sure, but with smiles and stuff, I don't believe any of the IOI's I really get from her, but I took it as a yes.
I started to lose control again as she started on about the product she was putting on me this whole time, and was saying how I only need to do it twice a week. I jumped on this opportunity, "Ok, well thats perfect I'll be coming back on Monday to get some shirts, you can do your bi-weekly demo on me, and then we'll grab some lunch". She started going about how she can't do that, and how I'm being cheap, and to buy her something at Victoria's Secret as a present for her putting the stuff on me. I just brushed that off with something like no, and she went on and on about "What am I cheap?". I was getting no where, and said something like "Ok, well fine since I'll be back Monday I'll just meet up for lunch with you". She responded with "I won't be here Monday it's my day off", I just said perhaps another day then. She was done, and I was done, and we parted. I wanted to at least get her damn name, but when I tried to mention it once during the conversation she brushed it off. At this point anyway I'm just trying to have some fun interacting and shit.
Thursday, May 29, 2008
N Wing & Me Day 3
It has been quite the long day, we ventured all the way into the dark depths of New Jersey. Although it was a very nice day out, which helped a lot, as we walked the streets there was almost an endless supply of targets. Ok maybe thats a bit exaggerating, but I did manage to open a lot of sets, more than I can even remember and more so that don't even count due to the lack of response I got from some.
All sets opened by me where with my Kate Perry Routine, while my N Wing did his magic, which I have been told that was fine to let everyone else know what it is that he does. He runs a tarot card routine, by going up to single and 2 sets asking if they think he is psychic, and asks them to be a test subject while he proves my lack of faith wrong. This is all part of his routine and has proven over and over again to work well. There are problems with his just as other routines though, he requires somewhere to actually do his, and can't just stop any target he wishes on the street. So places where seats are an abundance is his playground, such as a nearby park.
But all and all we had a great day and opened lots of sets each. We even did a little game of holding each others $ and as you opened sets you go it back, helps to get over that AA when it starts to cost you your own $, It was very fun as well.
Here are a few that went well that I can actually remember, since I hadn't planned on actually writing I didn't log any.
1)This was actually my very first open for the day and was one of the best. After I opened, we chatted a bit on any nearby bars to visit later that night although we had no intention to actually go to any it was conversation. I also remember asking her where she was headed, since I stopped her while walking past me. I think a 6.5
2)Black girl 6 sitting at bus stop. This was one of the best ones, after the opener I continued to sit and chat with her about bars, and how we were just visiting NJ, my wing said I prolly could have #closed and he was prolly right but wasn't really thinking about it only being practice and just thanked her and left after a while.
3)Got to love Starbucks, I'm starting to really enjoy my Moca Frap even though I have never been one for coffee, I think I'm starting to get addicted to them. Anyway I managed to talk to the Hired gun there a bit, and was actually the only one that I didn't run my Kate Perry Routine on. Part of these was because I was trying to get the balls to try out something I read somewhere on the forums. It goes like this:
HB: Hi, may I take your order?
Cedar: Wow. You're beautiful. I need a small chai. With a side of extra love. And your phone number.
HB: (blank stare)
Cedar: This is the part where you ring me up.
HB: Oh. Uh. $3. And. uh. Here's your receipt. (with her number on it).
Cedar: Awesome. I'll be at that table. Stop by when you're on break.
I was going to modify it by asking for a Tall Moca Frap, Some Extra Love, and your phone #. I know this is corny and most likely won't get a phone # but I have an urge to try this to see what happens. I have balls made of milk apparently because I didn't say this to her, and may never even get to use this. So I opened her up with I can't believe they left you all alone to this, or something like that. So then I told her that I wanted something chocolaty and was going to try and order something totally different, but I realized that this can only work if I actually order something totally diff by starting with something I would never get. Also another tip for hired guns. But she did say that Moca Frap isn't as chocolaty as something else, when I asked about it. So when I said that's what I wanted I got a great response, "You already knew what you wanted before you came up didn't you?" I denied the whole thing. She gave me what I interpitted as lots of IOI's, such as smiling to me, and the way she said "do you want whip cream on it?" and she also gave me extra chocolate syrup (I know I get this often, sometimes they don't even put it). So while she was making it I moved the conversation asking when this particular B&N closed, and then said so is that when you get off? She said yes, and so I moved into something like "So when you get off at 10, where can I go around here to have some fun" She said something on the lines of "Depends how much fun you want to have" (VERY sexual). We continued to talk for another short while before I finally left. I just want to say I'm a complete idiot for not even attempting to #close her, I was kicking my butt all the way as I walked out and back into the street. My wing said that I prolly shouldn't have anyway, but this is coming from a guy who don't believe in gaming hired guns so his opinion there is mute to me. She was very pretty too, like a 7.5
4)Girl was sitting down studying for something medical related, and we chatted for a bit about what she was doing after I ran my routine. At least a 7, Pretty.
After this girl I realized something, my particular routine or perhaps the way I approach seems to go best when the girl is already in a stationary place. A lot of the girls that I stopped or at least tried to stop while walking I found to be VERY difficult.
All sets opened by me where with my Kate Perry Routine, while my N Wing did his magic, which I have been told that was fine to let everyone else know what it is that he does. He runs a tarot card routine, by going up to single and 2 sets asking if they think he is psychic, and asks them to be a test subject while he proves my lack of faith wrong. This is all part of his routine and has proven over and over again to work well. There are problems with his just as other routines though, he requires somewhere to actually do his, and can't just stop any target he wishes on the street. So places where seats are an abundance is his playground, such as a nearby park.
But all and all we had a great day and opened lots of sets each. We even did a little game of holding each others $ and as you opened sets you go it back, helps to get over that AA when it starts to cost you your own $, It was very fun as well.
Here are a few that went well that I can actually remember, since I hadn't planned on actually writing I didn't log any.
1)This was actually my very first open for the day and was one of the best. After I opened, we chatted a bit on any nearby bars to visit later that night although we had no intention to actually go to any it was conversation. I also remember asking her where she was headed, since I stopped her while walking past me. I think a 6.5
2)Black girl 6 sitting at bus stop. This was one of the best ones, after the opener I continued to sit and chat with her about bars, and how we were just visiting NJ, my wing said I prolly could have #closed and he was prolly right but wasn't really thinking about it only being practice and just thanked her and left after a while.
3)Got to love Starbucks, I'm starting to really enjoy my Moca Frap even though I have never been one for coffee, I think I'm starting to get addicted to them. Anyway I managed to talk to the Hired gun there a bit, and was actually the only one that I didn't run my Kate Perry Routine on. Part of these was because I was trying to get the balls to try out something I read somewhere on the forums. It goes like this:
HB: Hi, may I take your order?
Cedar: Wow. You're beautiful. I need a small chai. With a side of extra love. And your phone number.
HB: (blank stare)
Cedar: This is the part where you ring me up.
HB: Oh. Uh. $3. And. uh. Here's your receipt. (with her number on it).
Cedar: Awesome. I'll be at that table. Stop by when you're on break.
I was going to modify it by asking for a Tall Moca Frap, Some Extra Love, and your phone #. I know this is corny and most likely won't get a phone # but I have an urge to try this to see what happens. I have balls made of milk apparently because I didn't say this to her, and may never even get to use this. So I opened her up with I can't believe they left you all alone to this, or something like that. So then I told her that I wanted something chocolaty and was going to try and order something totally different, but I realized that this can only work if I actually order something totally diff by starting with something I would never get. Also another tip for hired guns. But she did say that Moca Frap isn't as chocolaty as something else, when I asked about it. So when I said that's what I wanted I got a great response, "You already knew what you wanted before you came up didn't you?" I denied the whole thing. She gave me what I interpitted as lots of IOI's, such as smiling to me, and the way she said "do you want whip cream on it?" and she also gave me extra chocolate syrup (I know I get this often, sometimes they don't even put it). So while she was making it I moved the conversation asking when this particular B&N closed, and then said so is that when you get off? She said yes, and so I moved into something like "So when you get off at 10, where can I go around here to have some fun" She said something on the lines of "Depends how much fun you want to have" (VERY sexual). We continued to talk for another short while before I finally left. I just want to say I'm a complete idiot for not even attempting to #close her, I was kicking my butt all the way as I walked out and back into the street. My wing said that I prolly shouldn't have anyway, but this is coming from a guy who don't believe in gaming hired guns so his opinion there is mute to me. She was very pretty too, like a 7.5
4)Girl was sitting down studying for something medical related, and we chatted for a bit about what she was doing after I ran my routine. At least a 7, Pretty.
After this girl I realized something, my particular routine or perhaps the way I approach seems to go best when the girl is already in a stationary place. A lot of the girls that I stopped or at least tried to stop while walking I found to be VERY difficult.
Wednesday, May 28, 2008
Kate Perry Routine, Good or Bad?
Ok so after much resistance on my part I decided to go out for a few hours today with my N Wing. I mean I was having a blast already at home reading more of The Mystery Method (VAH), but really thought it was a bit late to be hitting the mall since it closes at 9:30. Anyway we went out, and I continued to open with my Kate Perry Routine, while he worked his magic his own way. To put things lightly I didn't get good responses tonight, most of the girls didn't or couldn't be bothered with me. This could have been do to my initial lack of energy to even be out, or could be the routine. My wing things it's just the routine, but we are planning on going out again tomo and I think I'll have him open a few sets with it and see if it's just me or not. I have a feeling the flaw is the way I may be coming off.
I did have a good 2 set, but they said they had to go. I got past the routine, and went into the "How do you know each other?", but after that they said they had to go before I could follow up with where do you work?
I just remembered, I did a hired gun putting away clothes, and after was done with the routine mentioned something on the lines of "doesn't it piss you off when people mess up these clothes?". She said ya, and I asked her how long she worked there, but ran out of things to say and she continued to fold the clothes during the whole conversation. Which indicated that perhaps I may be bailing too early still. But also proves, at least I think that it may not be the routine itself but perhaps me, the way I transition, or the lack of consistent transition.
Meanwhile my wing managed to do his routine complete on 1 girl, and had to stop in the middle of a 2nd because she had to get back to work, but managed to #close her, congrats. So all and all I will have his try to tomo, and hope all goes well.
I did have a good 2 set, but they said they had to go. I got past the routine, and went into the "How do you know each other?", but after that they said they had to go before I could follow up with where do you work?
I just remembered, I did a hired gun putting away clothes, and after was done with the routine mentioned something on the lines of "doesn't it piss you off when people mess up these clothes?". She said ya, and I asked her how long she worked there, but ran out of things to say and she continued to fold the clothes during the whole conversation. Which indicated that perhaps I may be bailing too early still. But also proves, at least I think that it may not be the routine itself but perhaps me, the way I transition, or the lack of consistent transition.
Meanwhile my wing managed to do his routine complete on 1 girl, and had to stop in the middle of a 2nd because she had to get back to work, but managed to #close her, congrats. So all and all I will have his try to tomo, and hope all goes well.
Monday, May 26, 2008
N Wing & Me Day 2
So me and my N Wing finally get a chance to go out in the world again. We went a few different places and he opened with his routine, and me with mine. He opened a lot more than me, but not going to go into detail with any of them except the last one where I actually had a part. I really don't remember or care to mention any of the small ones I opened but I do remember this set that I opened.
2 set: Pink Shirt 6, Black Outfit 6.5
I went in with my new Kate Perry Routine and got lots of positive responses from both, they said "Yes" to both parts, and we talked a little about it here and there. I was working with what they were telling me, but don't remember exact details. Then I moved on to "So how do you guys know each other?" and they said "Best friends" or something, and I should have asked how long is that. Wing enters the scene and at a very good point because I couldn't think of anything else to say. Now at this point I should have introduced him to them, but instead just answered his question which was "So what were you guys talking about?" I said something like on the lines of what their opinions were from my routine. Then a weird thing happened, I had nothing else to say and my wing left. I should have transitioned with anything but couldn't think of anything, and with my wing leaving left me confused to boot. So I thanked them for their time and left. I spoke with my wing afterwards and found out that it was a bit miscommunication of he didn't know if he was supposed to stay or if he should say anything. This is something that we still need to work on, and since this is only the 2nd time we are out together it will prolly take many more silly communication errors such as these.
2 set: Brown Hair Glasses 5.5, Long Black Hair 6
This set was actually my wings, and happens to be a routine that others love to watch. So even though I tried to talk to the other one, I had to wait until he was done doing his thing with both of them. After was said and done, I asked the Brown Haired one, which was sitting next to me if she heard of "The Cube". She said no, and I isolated her to go and do it. Note this is the 1st stranger I've had the liberty to actually do it on, but everything went really well, even got my kino on. I was on the money, she loved it in fact wanted me to do it to her friend, I said "Ya sure I guess, but I'm not a dancing monkey like my friend here". When we got back though my wing asked if we were ready to go which was fine cause I didn't really want to do it again. So we left for the night after that. But all and all we did had a fun time, things went pretty well although no number closes.
Update: 5-28-08
I finally realized that with the last girl what I should have done instead of going back to the table. I should have stayed with her and build comfort, I didn't realize it at the time but I was already in C1. I could have sat there and just talked, and most likely moved for a #close before returning to my wing and her friend. Even though she wasn't quite attractive it would have been great practice, and maybe even a friend.
2 set: Pink Shirt 6, Black Outfit 6.5
I went in with my new Kate Perry Routine and got lots of positive responses from both, they said "Yes" to both parts, and we talked a little about it here and there. I was working with what they were telling me, but don't remember exact details. Then I moved on to "So how do you guys know each other?" and they said "Best friends" or something, and I should have asked how long is that. Wing enters the scene and at a very good point because I couldn't think of anything else to say. Now at this point I should have introduced him to them, but instead just answered his question which was "So what were you guys talking about?" I said something like on the lines of what their opinions were from my routine. Then a weird thing happened, I had nothing else to say and my wing left. I should have transitioned with anything but couldn't think of anything, and with my wing leaving left me confused to boot. So I thanked them for their time and left. I spoke with my wing afterwards and found out that it was a bit miscommunication of he didn't know if he was supposed to stay or if he should say anything. This is something that we still need to work on, and since this is only the 2nd time we are out together it will prolly take many more silly communication errors such as these.
2 set: Brown Hair Glasses 5.5, Long Black Hair 6
This set was actually my wings, and happens to be a routine that others love to watch. So even though I tried to talk to the other one, I had to wait until he was done doing his thing with both of them. After was said and done, I asked the Brown Haired one, which was sitting next to me if she heard of "The Cube". She said no, and I isolated her to go and do it. Note this is the 1st stranger I've had the liberty to actually do it on, but everything went really well, even got my kino on. I was on the money, she loved it in fact wanted me to do it to her friend, I said "Ya sure I guess, but I'm not a dancing monkey like my friend here". When we got back though my wing asked if we were ready to go which was fine cause I didn't really want to do it again. So we left for the night after that. But all and all we did had a fun time, things went pretty well although no number closes.
Update: 5-28-08
I finally realized that with the last girl what I should have done instead of going back to the table. I should have stayed with her and build comfort, I didn't realize it at the time but I was already in C1. I could have sat there and just talked, and most likely moved for a #close before returning to my wing and her friend. Even though she wasn't quite attractive it would have been great practice, and maybe even a friend.
Barnes & Noble Day 3
Only was there a short amount of time before I left to meet up with my N Wing. But managed to get a couple of girls, and it's hardly worth mentioning.
1)Ok I delayed with this first girl, but got lucky and she sat down at the table just off to my side facing my direction, Black girl 7. One minute goes by... Five minutes go by... 15 Minutes go by... I know that I have to approach and the best way that I could think to do this was to get and come back. So I asked her if she could watch my stuff and that I'll be back in a sec. Besides I had to visit the bathroom anyway and wanted to look around for others as well. So this is how it pretty much went when I came back:
Me: "Thanks for watching my stuff"
Her: "Oh no problem"
Me: "So what are you reading?"
Her: "The Raven"
Me: "Oh by Edgar Allan Poe?"
Her: "Ya"
Me: "So is that for a school project or something?"
Her: "Ya"
Me: Prolly something like oh thats cool, don't remember
At this point I wasn't getting good energy from her, and felt kinda of uncomfortable especially cause even though we were sitting close, it was hard to talk that far, but then again I should have prolly stood over her for a minute to talk, and then sat down at her table to finish talking instead of briefly talking while standing then going back to my seat. I think that had a huge impact on how this went, but nonetheless I just stopped after that. I ended it too early, and fucked up I know.
2)Blonde 6, Looking at some books and had a blue shirt. Now for those of you that don't really know how this routine works unfortunately won't be particularly helpful in understanding, especially since I'm trying to keep it somewhat of a secret since I created it.
Me: Kate Perry Routine (Girl Part)
Her: Yeah
Me: (Boy Part)
Her: Yeah
At this point the routine is over, then she turns and pretty much walks away, I get out a thank you for her help before she's completely gone.
So apparently my worst fear in that Yummy would be right came true, I got my 1 worded responses, although it really wasn't exact word for word, but was definally pretty much what happened. I think she may have said a bit more, but I think maybe she really didn't want to be bothered because she did walk away at the end. So I think she just said what she had to say to eject as fast as possible.
1)Ok I delayed with this first girl, but got lucky and she sat down at the table just off to my side facing my direction, Black girl 7. One minute goes by... Five minutes go by... 15 Minutes go by... I know that I have to approach and the best way that I could think to do this was to get and come back. So I asked her if she could watch my stuff and that I'll be back in a sec. Besides I had to visit the bathroom anyway and wanted to look around for others as well. So this is how it pretty much went when I came back:
Me: "Thanks for watching my stuff"
Her: "Oh no problem"
Me: "So what are you reading?"
Her: "The Raven"
Me: "Oh by Edgar Allan Poe?"
Her: "Ya"
Me: "So is that for a school project or something?"
Her: "Ya"
Me: Prolly something like oh thats cool, don't remember
At this point I wasn't getting good energy from her, and felt kinda of uncomfortable especially cause even though we were sitting close, it was hard to talk that far, but then again I should have prolly stood over her for a minute to talk, and then sat down at her table to finish talking instead of briefly talking while standing then going back to my seat. I think that had a huge impact on how this went, but nonetheless I just stopped after that. I ended it too early, and fucked up I know.
2)Blonde 6, Looking at some books and had a blue shirt. Now for those of you that don't really know how this routine works unfortunately won't be particularly helpful in understanding, especially since I'm trying to keep it somewhat of a secret since I created it.
Me: Kate Perry Routine (Girl Part)
Her: Yeah
Me: (Boy Part)
Her: Yeah
At this point the routine is over, then she turns and pretty much walks away, I get out a thank you for her help before she's completely gone.
So apparently my worst fear in that Yummy would be right came true, I got my 1 worded responses, although it really wasn't exact word for word, but was definally pretty much what happened. I think she may have said a bit more, but I think maybe she really didn't want to be bothered because she did walk away at the end. So I think she just said what she had to say to eject as fast as possible.
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
Hired Gun - Bakery Stocker
Well if anyone remembers back in April I saw and somewhat talked to this pretty chick in the bakery department of a store. I messed it up, and have been trying to approach her for real this time. It seemed though that every time I've been in that store, which hasn't been that often as it's not near me I look for her. Well today I was there, and She was there, but the thing is I'm not 100% sure it was the same girl. Sure she had the same outfit (consisted of hat, and white cooking shirt thingy) and short hair and was pretty, but from what I remember she looked a bit different. Nonetheless this girl although logically speaking I'm sure it was the same girl, was 7.5 brown hair I think, beautiful blue eyes, I mean very captivating, but she seemed like she might have been a bit young. Anyway I passed her, glanced over, I might have said Hi, and continued to walk. I read about this where you go back as you just had a thought and I started my new Kate Perry Routine, which went a bit like this without revealing too many exact details about it.
Me: "You just reminded me a female opinion I wanted to get"
Her: Something like, oh ya what is it?
Me: "Do you know that new song by Kate Perry called I kissed a girl?"
Her: "No"
Me: "Ok, well it's basically about this chick who kisses a girl and hope her BF don't mind" and I continued with my routine, over all it went very well I finished the whole thing, and got a positive response, BUT after it was over, I was fucked. I couldn't think of ANY transition question, so I said
Me:"Well thank you for helping me out".
Her: "No Problem" or something like that.
I did consider running my new Life Line Routine right after but didn't for 2 reasons:
1)Like I mentioned before she looked younger than I remembered, so it wouldn't have gone well.
2)It didn't feel right moving from one routine straight into the next w/o having anything in between.
So I was kicking myself all the way to checkout, and while I was in the car I finally thought of 2 diff questions I could have asked:
1) Do you know any cool bars / clubs to go to around here?
2) So what kind of music do you listen too? (Since she said that she hadn't heard of that song)
But I was thinking why the fuck is it at the time I can't think of these fucking things, and soon as I'm gone they come to me! It makes me sooo mad! Overall I thought it went well though, and now I'm wondering if it's ever possible to talk to her again :( If I could WTF could I say? I feel so AFC right now it makes me soo mad that I fucked up! I've been practicing and waiting until I was ready and I still messed up, now I feel like I'm being forced to move on, because I prolly don't have any more chances with this girl :(
Me: "You just reminded me a female opinion I wanted to get"
Her: Something like, oh ya what is it?
Me: "Do you know that new song by Kate Perry called I kissed a girl?"
Her: "No"
Me: "Ok, well it's basically about this chick who kisses a girl and hope her BF don't mind" and I continued with my routine, over all it went very well I finished the whole thing, and got a positive response, BUT after it was over, I was fucked. I couldn't think of ANY transition question, so I said
Me:"Well thank you for helping me out".
Her: "No Problem" or something like that.
I did consider running my new Life Line Routine right after but didn't for 2 reasons:
1)Like I mentioned before she looked younger than I remembered, so it wouldn't have gone well.
2)It didn't feel right moving from one routine straight into the next w/o having anything in between.
So I was kicking myself all the way to checkout, and while I was in the car I finally thought of 2 diff questions I could have asked:
1) Do you know any cool bars / clubs to go to around here?
2) So what kind of music do you listen too? (Since she said that she hadn't heard of that song)
But I was thinking why the fuck is it at the time I can't think of these fucking things, and soon as I'm gone they come to me! It makes me sooo mad! Overall I thought it went well though, and now I'm wondering if it's ever possible to talk to her again :( If I could WTF could I say? I feel so AFC right now it makes me soo mad that I fucked up! I've been practicing and waiting until I was ready and I still messed up, now I feel like I'm being forced to move on, because I prolly don't have any more chances with this girl :(
Saturday, May 17, 2008
N Wing
This may sound gay the way I say this but it's the truth. I met a guy online :P
I found a Nameless Wing or N Wing as he will be referred to, to help me get out of my house more and to help each other. We met up talked about the community go to know each other, and we did some practice runs in the mall. He had me trying out the cologne routine, which I found to be a pretty good opener, especially since there was 2 of us.
Ok so after a demonstration from him, on what to say and such, I got my 3 samples and went out to test out this new found routine.
1)Macy's Hired Gun, Brown hair 6, I was told after that it was a hired gun, but at I didn't she was only because she had a bunch of clothes in her hands so I thought she was shopping but was putting them away. So I opened with something like "Hey, could you help me out real quick, my friend is getting impatient and I'm trying to pick out a cologne" and tried to hand her the samples, she wasn't so responsive at first but started smelling, and I transitioned with "Do you know any cool bars / clubs to goto tonight".
Her: "No, not here only in like Brooklyn"
N Wing: "Did you just say you don't know of any places to go out?"
Her: "Ya well not here, and I don't really go out" Or some shit like that.
They kinda talked back and forth for a sec, and I thanked her and moved on.
2)Hired Gun for some girl store, Black hair 7, Now this started fine, I opened, and she picked one, and said something like do you know which is which? I said the names of them but wasn't sure, and she pulled in another hired gun for an opinion also and she began smelling and started to recommend. Thankfully my Wing came in to help and talk to them, but I have no clue what about, I think he transitioned to the any cool bars question, but they had no clue.
3)First 2 Set for me: Kim 7.5 black hair, sunglasses and her friend a 6 in a brown shirt. I saw them coming out a store and stopped them. It started off really well, they each took 1/3 samples and started smelling them (I think if I had 2 samples this routine would go better, less to hold and not many to get confused). So they started giving their opinions, and my Wing came in to join in the conversation. I was about to transition with the bar/club question but he beat me to the punch. They started talking and such, but somehow the girl in brown shirt was getting more attention and talking more. So Kim started to back away, I moved in closer to her and tried to thing of something to say. Unfortunately I couldn't think of anything else other than "So what's your name?" I know I messed up here too. But we shook hands and I got a name, I knew I had to talk to her and keep her occupied while my Wing was talking to the girl in brown shirt. I failed :( Kim finally decided to walk into the store we were standing in front of (not the one they just left).
N Wing: "Well it looks like your friend is getting bored and wants to shop".
We just left after that, and thanked them for their help. Oh BTW they actually recommend some bars / clubs, don't have a clue what they were called now, but it was helpful at the time. I think they said something like the tropicana. I should also note that I failed to mention who my target was to my Wing before we entered the set, but then again I didn't really think about it until I opened them. My bad :(
Later that night we finally went out to check out some of my Wings favorite bars around the city, the first one we went to was pretty much dead. It had a few sets, but mostly just a bunch of people at the bar, guy and girl sets. There was this other set by the booth that was a 5 set (2 couples, and girl). I thought it was a good spot to practice if we would could get that girl alone. So when my Wing went to the bathroom one of the couples separated, and it was now a 3 set hurry. We had moved to sit across from them, so I leaned in and said this to them right after they were singing along to the loud music "We got to get your guys a karaoke mike", they laughed a bit and I followed up with "Do you know of any karaoke bars around here?" They mentioned one that was pretty far away. I should mention that it was raining most of the night, and we tried to walk around earlier to find another bar, but we found that quite difficult in the rain with only my Wing having an umbrella, and me w/o a jacket. So instead of acting like a gay couple huddled under 1 umbrella, we waited a while in that bar to see if it picked up. It didn't but we decided to walk about 20 blocks to the next bar, thankfully the rain stopped.
So we get to this next place, it was kinda small, but weird cause it was a restaurant too. So my took a seat next to this 2 set (girls 7, 7.5) and he had me walk around and check out the place. I assumed he was going to work on that set or do something, so I walked around slowly looking for any potential sets, and went up stairs where they had a 2nd bar. So I got my small water with lemon (to look like it's a real drink) and continued to look around. I saw another 2 set, and tried to get close to talk to them, but from where they were sitting at on the bar, it was physically impossible to reach them because another set was blocking the way. So I left to go downstairs. To my surprise my Wing had a girl sitting next to him, I was unsure if I should go to him or if he wanted to be alone and it was part of his plan to begin with. I took a chance and walked to him, he introduced me to this girl and told me to sit. Now at this point I know this is weird and thought maybe he go her for me or just wanted to practice, I had no clue. So I sit down, and he leaves; I couldn't really hear her when she said her name so I asked him again. She said her name was Cindy, BTW this girl was a 4 Asian with black hair. Plus her breathe smelled real bad, and she didn't talk like at all. I asked her a few questions to try and get her talking and she said she was from Paris and just visiting, I tried to ask her a question about Paris, but was like pulling teeth. I was starting to see why my Wing left me with her. So he returns and says to me, did she tell you she was from Rome, I said no she said she was from Paris. I started to get confused like was there a Paris in Rome as well or was this bitch just fucking lying. Well it turns out she was just fucking lying, and she sat down next to him out of no where. He had tried to ask her questions about Rome, and she didn't know anything about Rome either. So all in all it was really weird and creepy, but me and my Wing were thinking I wonder if this is what girls feel like when they are approached by some random ugly guy?
Moving on...
There was another 3 set (2 fat chicks a 5 and 5.5, and a 6.5) They were sitting to on these other couches to the right and north of us. My Wing said that best way for us to approach them since they were sitting was to sit next to them. We noticed that the couch that we were going to go to was occupied but the people there were about to leave. So as soon as they left we got up and was headed to sit down, unfortunately we had no communication prior so I was confused where to sit, and why he was going to go to the bathroom. So I sat with my back to them all awkward waiting for him to come back, but then I thought that perhaps we walked away so that I could open them. I asked them if they knew of any cool bars / clubs to go to besides this one. They didn't really know, so I mentioned something on the lines of "Well you girls seem to go out a lot". I don't remember what or if they said anything after that, but I knew it was time to leave. So my Wing comes back all confused and I tell him we have to go, and that was it for the night.
By the time I finally got home it was 3:30, and overall I thought the day went well, got some experiences and familiarity with that atmosphere and my Wing.
I found a Nameless Wing or N Wing as he will be referred to, to help me get out of my house more and to help each other. We met up talked about the community go to know each other, and we did some practice runs in the mall. He had me trying out the cologne routine, which I found to be a pretty good opener, especially since there was 2 of us.
Ok so after a demonstration from him, on what to say and such, I got my 3 samples and went out to test out this new found routine.
1)Macy's Hired Gun, Brown hair 6, I was told after that it was a hired gun, but at I didn't she was only because she had a bunch of clothes in her hands so I thought she was shopping but was putting them away. So I opened with something like "Hey, could you help me out real quick, my friend is getting impatient and I'm trying to pick out a cologne" and tried to hand her the samples, she wasn't so responsive at first but started smelling, and I transitioned with "Do you know any cool bars / clubs to goto tonight".
Her: "No, not here only in like Brooklyn"
N Wing: "Did you just say you don't know of any places to go out?"
Her: "Ya well not here, and I don't really go out" Or some shit like that.
They kinda talked back and forth for a sec, and I thanked her and moved on.
2)Hired Gun for some girl store, Black hair 7, Now this started fine, I opened, and she picked one, and said something like do you know which is which? I said the names of them but wasn't sure, and she pulled in another hired gun for an opinion also and she began smelling and started to recommend. Thankfully my Wing came in to help and talk to them, but I have no clue what about, I think he transitioned to the any cool bars question, but they had no clue.
3)First 2 Set for me: Kim 7.5 black hair, sunglasses and her friend a 6 in a brown shirt. I saw them coming out a store and stopped them. It started off really well, they each took 1/3 samples and started smelling them (I think if I had 2 samples this routine would go better, less to hold and not many to get confused). So they started giving their opinions, and my Wing came in to join in the conversation. I was about to transition with the bar/club question but he beat me to the punch. They started talking and such, but somehow the girl in brown shirt was getting more attention and talking more. So Kim started to back away, I moved in closer to her and tried to thing of something to say. Unfortunately I couldn't think of anything else other than "So what's your name?" I know I messed up here too. But we shook hands and I got a name, I knew I had to talk to her and keep her occupied while my Wing was talking to the girl in brown shirt. I failed :( Kim finally decided to walk into the store we were standing in front of (not the one they just left).
N Wing: "Well it looks like your friend is getting bored and wants to shop".
We just left after that, and thanked them for their help. Oh BTW they actually recommend some bars / clubs, don't have a clue what they were called now, but it was helpful at the time. I think they said something like the tropicana. I should also note that I failed to mention who my target was to my Wing before we entered the set, but then again I didn't really think about it until I opened them. My bad :(
Later that night we finally went out to check out some of my Wings favorite bars around the city, the first one we went to was pretty much dead. It had a few sets, but mostly just a bunch of people at the bar, guy and girl sets. There was this other set by the booth that was a 5 set (2 couples, and girl). I thought it was a good spot to practice if we would could get that girl alone. So when my Wing went to the bathroom one of the couples separated, and it was now a 3 set hurry. We had moved to sit across from them, so I leaned in and said this to them right after they were singing along to the loud music "We got to get your guys a karaoke mike", they laughed a bit and I followed up with "Do you know of any karaoke bars around here?" They mentioned one that was pretty far away. I should mention that it was raining most of the night, and we tried to walk around earlier to find another bar, but we found that quite difficult in the rain with only my Wing having an umbrella, and me w/o a jacket. So instead of acting like a gay couple huddled under 1 umbrella, we waited a while in that bar to see if it picked up. It didn't but we decided to walk about 20 blocks to the next bar, thankfully the rain stopped.
So we get to this next place, it was kinda small, but weird cause it was a restaurant too. So my took a seat next to this 2 set (girls 7, 7.5) and he had me walk around and check out the place. I assumed he was going to work on that set or do something, so I walked around slowly looking for any potential sets, and went up stairs where they had a 2nd bar. So I got my small water with lemon (to look like it's a real drink) and continued to look around. I saw another 2 set, and tried to get close to talk to them, but from where they were sitting at on the bar, it was physically impossible to reach them because another set was blocking the way. So I left to go downstairs. To my surprise my Wing had a girl sitting next to him, I was unsure if I should go to him or if he wanted to be alone and it was part of his plan to begin with. I took a chance and walked to him, he introduced me to this girl and told me to sit. Now at this point I know this is weird and thought maybe he go her for me or just wanted to practice, I had no clue. So I sit down, and he leaves; I couldn't really hear her when she said her name so I asked him again. She said her name was Cindy, BTW this girl was a 4 Asian with black hair. Plus her breathe smelled real bad, and she didn't talk like at all. I asked her a few questions to try and get her talking and she said she was from Paris and just visiting, I tried to ask her a question about Paris, but was like pulling teeth. I was starting to see why my Wing left me with her. So he returns and says to me, did she tell you she was from Rome, I said no she said she was from Paris. I started to get confused like was there a Paris in Rome as well or was this bitch just fucking lying. Well it turns out she was just fucking lying, and she sat down next to him out of no where. He had tried to ask her questions about Rome, and she didn't know anything about Rome either. So all in all it was really weird and creepy, but me and my Wing were thinking I wonder if this is what girls feel like when they are approached by some random ugly guy?
Moving on...
There was another 3 set (2 fat chicks a 5 and 5.5, and a 6.5) They were sitting to on these other couches to the right and north of us. My Wing said that best way for us to approach them since they were sitting was to sit next to them. We noticed that the couch that we were going to go to was occupied but the people there were about to leave. So as soon as they left we got up and was headed to sit down, unfortunately we had no communication prior so I was confused where to sit, and why he was going to go to the bathroom. So I sat with my back to them all awkward waiting for him to come back, but then I thought that perhaps we walked away so that I could open them. I asked them if they knew of any cool bars / clubs to go to besides this one. They didn't really know, so I mentioned something on the lines of "Well you girls seem to go out a lot". I don't remember what or if they said anything after that, but I knew it was time to leave. So my Wing comes back all confused and I tell him we have to go, and that was it for the night.
By the time I finally got home it was 3:30, and overall I thought the day went well, got some experiences and familiarity with that atmosphere and my Wing.
Friday, May 16, 2008
Ferry Thoughts
After the RSD Workshop, I met up with Yummy for a bite to eat, and then we parted our ways, and made my way to the ferry.
By the time I got on the ferry it was like 11 o'clock, I had a long day, but I was still looking for any single sets I could find. I found 1 girl at the terminal before we got in, but I really wasn't in the mood anymore, not quite sure why I was looking in the first place. So I did approach her, and figured I would find her later if I really wanted to. I made my rounds around the ferry, same old, same old, back and forth, up and down. As I'm coming back towards the people that are just coming on, I see that same girl again (6.5 brown hair) but for some reason I get AA, and I pass her, I felt it was a weird situation to stop her as all these people are coming towards me, so I just pass her, and continue my walk around. I actually wind up coming back around that same way to see if I can find her finally sitting down (I waited a few minutes before coming back that way). I see her sitting alone, with a double distraction, Headphones and Reading. I find it bad enough to interrupt someone with 1 of those and I was getting really tired a this point and just wasn't in the mood anymore so I sat down on like the other side of the boat but could still see her from where I was, debating if I wanted to bother to talk to her. I seriously think at this point I wasn't approaching from AA, but from tiredness.
So I'm there sitting, and from the outside walked in this tall blonde 6.5 she looks so tired, but was cute. She sits across and to the left of me with an isle in between us. At this point I'm already listening to my music, and barely staying up, so I considered talking to her, just as something to do. I saw that she was bored as hell too, or perhaps just tired, so I thought of kinda making her night. But all in all I just kinda laid back relaxed and listened to the sweet sound of music, while contemplating if I wanted to get up or not. I didn't and just continued on my way home, and tried to stay awake on the SIR.
By the time I got on the ferry it was like 11 o'clock, I had a long day, but I was still looking for any single sets I could find. I found 1 girl at the terminal before we got in, but I really wasn't in the mood anymore, not quite sure why I was looking in the first place. So I did approach her, and figured I would find her later if I really wanted to. I made my rounds around the ferry, same old, same old, back and forth, up and down. As I'm coming back towards the people that are just coming on, I see that same girl again (6.5 brown hair) but for some reason I get AA, and I pass her, I felt it was a weird situation to stop her as all these people are coming towards me, so I just pass her, and continue my walk around. I actually wind up coming back around that same way to see if I can find her finally sitting down (I waited a few minutes before coming back that way). I see her sitting alone, with a double distraction, Headphones and Reading. I find it bad enough to interrupt someone with 1 of those and I was getting really tired a this point and just wasn't in the mood anymore so I sat down on like the other side of the boat but could still see her from where I was, debating if I wanted to bother to talk to her. I seriously think at this point I wasn't approaching from AA, but from tiredness.
So I'm there sitting, and from the outside walked in this tall blonde 6.5 she looks so tired, but was cute. She sits across and to the left of me with an isle in between us. At this point I'm already listening to my music, and barely staying up, so I considered talking to her, just as something to do. I saw that she was bored as hell too, or perhaps just tired, so I thought of kinda making her night. But all in all I just kinda laid back relaxed and listened to the sweet sound of music, while contemplating if I wanted to get up or not. I didn't and just continued on my way home, and tried to stay awake on the SIR.
RSD Workshop
Jeffy Alan spoke from Real Social Dynamics (RSD). This is one crazy / extreme kinda guy.
He told some stories about himself.
Spoke about making a road map for your life and for becoming a PUA.
Like Yummy told me that night, he really didn't say much, just kind of advertised a lot for his boot camp, and seminar and those from RSD. Things like the Jeffy Show, and Blueprint were repeated a lot.
At the time I thought it was a pretty good presentation, but now that I think about it, it wasn't that good. But hey it was free :P
He told some stories about himself.
Spoke about making a road map for your life and for becoming a PUA.
Like Yummy told me that night, he really didn't say much, just kind of advertised a lot for his boot camp, and seminar and those from RSD. Things like the Jeffy Show, and Blueprint were repeated a lot.
At the time I thought it was a pretty good presentation, but now that I think about it, it wasn't that good. But hey it was free :P
Union Square
On my way to the Real Social Dynamics (RSD) Workshop yesterday night, I decided to head into the city early to get more practice in and check out the park at union square and the Barnes and Noble there since it was 4 floors. I left the house at like 11:30 and started on my fucking 2 hour trip to the city. On the way there I had my first 3 approaches, the last of them was in the book store. I looked around the park when I got there, but didn't see any single sets and it was smaller than I imaged. So for all these sets I started with "Hey how's it going?" and then followed up with something. This time around I actually took notes afterwards when I had time, so it's a lot more detailed than I have been writing. So lets get into the sets.
1) Ah the first set of the day, it actually didn't go bad, I know now that I ended it too early and made some other mistakes like talking about her BF. So anyway, she was an 8.5 redhead named Erika. We started off sitting on the opposite sides of the car on the SIR (Staten Island Railroad).
Me: Opened, "Where you going?" She couldn't hear me because we were far apart, so I picked up my backpack and moved to sit right next to her, and repeated myself.
Her: "Meeting up with my BF in Brooklyn"
Me: "Oh thats cool, how long have you guys been together?
Her: "3 yrs"
Me: "So you guys planning on having kids soon?"
Her: With a big smile, "I don't know"
Me: At this point I said something like, I know that the urge is harder when your together longer and longer (It was stupid I know) In my head I was thinking of how to nicely say "Well your biological clock is running out, shouldn't do something". I got off that topic, and asked her if she lived around here, she said ya. I told her where I was from, and like a stop later I decided to bail. It's not the best way but it's kind of my failsafe system "Well this is my stop", and I get off and move to he car behind. She replied with another big smile "Well it was nice meeting you". Somewhere in that converstation we shook hands when we introduced our names and she mentioned that her BF had the same name as mine (Know clue WTF I responded with). I should mention that I should never use that as a bail ever again, because we were pretty much going the same direction for a while. When we got to the ferry I saw her walking ahead of me, and I carefully avoided being seen.
2)This one didn't so well, I walked back and forth, up and down the floors of the ferry boat looking for any single sets. Of coarse I saw Erika during my travels but I know she didn't see me, and I avoided where I knew she was sitting. So I finally saw this one girl sitting alone, and approached, she was in a suit, about a 7 black hair.
Me: Opener, "So Where you going?"
Her: "To work" With a very uninterested expression.
Me: "So what do you do?"
Her: "Real Estate"
Me: "Oh thats cool, isn't the market really bad now?"
Her: "It is, but not for the city"
Me: I felt it was really going no where fast, and she was so not into it, so I started taking out my head phones and PSP to listen to some music. But in the mean time I was trying to think of anything else to say, but nothing came to mind. During that time she took out her phone and called someone. After I got set up, I got up, and said "Nice meeting you", but if she heard me she didn't acknowledge it.
3)This one went really well. After leaving from that last girl I headed downstairs and onto the front of the boat to get some fresh air and enjoy the view. I saw Lauren, a 7 blonde wearing a green tang top shirt outside. Our converstation lasted pretty much that whole ferry ride (at least 20 min), so I don't remember a lot of it, but here is kinda how it went.
Me: Opener, "Aren't you cold?" Now I was a bit chilly and I had a short sleeve shirt on. I figured she was freezing, but she wasn't.
Her: "No, I'm fine"
Me: "So where you headed?"
Her: "South Street Seaport to do some shopping" I think she asked me how about me.
Me: I said where I was going, we talked about how she moved back Florida, I told her about AZ, She's graduating in 2 weeks to become a teacher (WTF is with all the teachers?) Anyway I mentioned and kinda kidded around you must really like kids, she said ya, and I said something like "It's a shame how you don't get a lot as a teacher". By the way I introduced myself a couple of minutes in and got that handshake out of the way, and about halfway through I lightly touched her shoulder saying "You sure your not cold?" Not entirely sure when the BF came up, it was somewhere around the topics of what I'm studying to do (Police Officer) and where she was going after shopping with was meeting up with her BF in Brooklyn (This seems to be a very common answer...) And she works in Brooklyn too. When we got close to the City I somewhat yelled out "Land Ho!" She laughed, and I said "I always wanted to say that" with a big smile, We continued on talking about whatever. When we were passing the Statue of Liberty I asked her if she ever went there, and said "no", I said "We should go there sometime" and we talked about how it's funny how when you live somewhere you don't always visits the sites of that place, and I remember somewhere in there saying that when I was kid, that I counted how many step there was to the top. She asked me if I remember how many, I don't really remember but I responded with "It was something like 1053". Also somewhere in out talking I mentioned my old GF, I don't really know what it was in regards to, but I know that I mentioned it because she mentioned her BF and tried to come off less threating. I know that was bad too.
I tried to #close when we got really close to docking, but I fucked it up. This is sort of how it went.
Me: "Well you seem pretty cool" (There was a .5 second pause to my next line)
Her: something like "O ya?" and she was laughing
Me: "We should hang out some time."
Her: Something on the lines of "I don't know" or "I really can't"
Me: "Why not?" I mentioned something afterwards on the lines of "I don't really have anyone to hang with on SI, where she is living.
Not sure what happened after that, she was smiling the whole time, but we kind of moved on. I know now that I should have just continued with something like "Let me see your phone" and hand your my phone and saying "Lets exchange #'s". But I guess I gave up too easy :( I'm 99% sure I could have #closed her. We shook hands one more time before departing saying "it was nice meeting you".
So I finally made my way to Union Square, got something to eat, and looked around the park not seeing anyone, and went to the 4 story bookstore. I got there around 1:30 and already I was feeling a bit tired, although I had plenty of sleep the night before. Enter the Bookstore (Where the rest of these took place)
4)Blonde 7 sitting on floor reading.
Me: Opener, "You look comfortable"
Her: I think it was on the lines of "Ya kinda" She looked borderline happy, but still a bit upset, prolly cause I interrupted her reading.
Me: "So what are you reading?"
Her: "A cookbook"
Me: "Oh thats cool, Have you learned anything interesting?"
Her: Don't remember wtf she said, I think it was "no, not really"
I don't remember much after that, but I know I kinda walked away after that.
5)Another girl sitting down reading, 7 black hair
Me: Opener, "You look comfortable"
Her: I think it was on the lines of "Ya kinda" She looked happy though and was smiling up at me.
Me: "So what are you reading?"
Her: I don't remember is she said anything or just held up the book for me to see, it was called "Thank you for smoking" I've heard of this book, but not sure what it was about, she had just started reading it her self.
Me: "So are you trying to stop smoking or starting?"
Her: Don't remember wtf she said, I think it was "no"
Me: "Have you learned anything interesting?"
Her: "Well I just started it so not yet, but it looks interesting"
Me: No clue where I went from there, I might have said something like, are you from around here? I think she nodded. I sort of walked on the side of her continuing to pretend looking at the books like I was doing as I approached her, and all the girls there for the most part. I may have said "It was nice meeting you", I just couldn't think of anything to say and I started feeling my energy level just depleting from me like someone stuck a hole in my energy level tank.
6)Now I'm not sure if I started slacking my approach, if it was my energy level, or whatever but things really started going downhill from here. Blonde 7
Me: Opener ("Hey, how's it going?")
Her: I might have gotten a hi, she was texting at the time while standing in front of a bookshelf that I saw her looking at.
Me: "So what brings you hear today"
Her: With the some disgusted look on her, face and giving me that look of are you a fucking it? "Uh, Books"
Me: "Well what kind of books?"
Her: "Microsoft / computer books, my computer is broken and I'm trying to fix it"
Me: I wanted to tell her to just go to like the geek squad or something, or perhaps don't try it yourself if you don't know wtf your doing. But I remember from past experiences that I shouldn't say shit like that. So all I could get out was "Thats Cool". There was some dead silence for a bit, and then I said "So you live around here?"
Her: "Ya" and looks at me all weird again.
Me: "I'm from SI", she just flat out walked away after that, not saying a word.
7) I might as well just copy and paste #6 because it was pretty much the same shit. Black hair 7, sitting on floor reading what looked like a CD, but I'm sure it was a book. This was in the New Age Section
Me: Opener
Her: Looks up, there might have been a smile, "Hi"
Me: "So what are you reading?"
Her: No response, just continues to look down reading.
Me: Saying with a smile "I don't bite" (I might have said "Ya know" at the end of that)
Her: Gets up, and walks away.
8)This was yet another 7 with black hair. She was reading some magazine, I came up from her side.
Me: Opener
Her: Turns to look at me, then back to her magazine.
Me: "So what ya reading?"
Her: Shakes here head back and forth while still reading.
Me: "Nothing?"
Her: No response
At this point it was beyond over, So I saw an interesting magazine in front of me, I picked it up, thumbed through, then just left.
So things aren't going well, I'm getting even more tired than I was, I have been taking breaks here and there writing between some of these girls, and reading from my book waiting for the store to refresh itself. So i really think that it must be something that I'm doing or how I'm coming up to there. But I'm not sure.
9)I saw this girl coming up from one of the escalators, I might have already been on that floor, and I saw her stop at some book on a table. Blonde 7.5 with really shiny glasses that covered more than her eyes, She also had headphones on.
Me: Opener
Her: "Hi" With a smile
Me: I'm already thinking that I may finally have an actually conversation with someone, but I shouldn't have asked this question "So what are you reading?" I saw her just pick up the book, and was just looking at it, she wasn't reading it she didn't have time to know wtf it was.
Her: She showed me the book, it was called "Making the cut"
Me: "So what's it about?"
Her: "I don't know"
Me: "Well it looks like some kind of fitness book"
Her: "Ya"
Me: "Well ti don't seem like you need it" I knew after the words left my mouth wtf I did, I gave her an IOI w/o earning it, and it was wrong to say.
Her: "TY, well I'm looking for a friend"
Me: I think there was some kind of dead silence, cause I was trying to think of something else to say... "So what are you listening too?"
Her: "Sublime"
Me: "Oh thats a pretty cool band" I was about to ask what song it was, although I only know a few of them.
Her: Gives me a big smile and says "Have a nice day"
Me: I was confused on exactly wtf happened and where I went wrong, so I just got out Ok... and walked down the escalator.
I was down there like 1/2 hour, I was sitting on one of the few chairs they have in that place, and noticed her coming from the escalator, I was thinking to myself I think I'm going to go up to her and ask her WTF did I do wrong, and see if I could get any feedback at all, why the hell not? I already blew it, WTF was she going to do run away this time? I though for a while, and decided to check downstairs for some girls. So I waited like another 15 minutes, and decided to check, I saw her and Re-approached.
Me: "Hey" with a big smile, like it's me again.
Her: "Hi..."
Me: "I wanted to ask you a quick question. In your honest opinion was it my approach that threw you off or something?
Her: "No, your approach was fine" She was smiling
Me: "Ok, well I was just trying to get some kind of feedback.
Her: "No No, your approach was fine"
I was hoping that I would get a little more information than that, as now I was confused on where the fuck I messed up. If it wasn't my approach where the hell did I fuck up with those other girls? or was only the approach with this girl that was fine? I have no clue, I left that place after that, and headed towards the RSD Workshop, it was 5 at this point, so I was there like 3 1/2 hours.
1) Ah the first set of the day, it actually didn't go bad, I know now that I ended it too early and made some other mistakes like talking about her BF. So anyway, she was an 8.5 redhead named Erika. We started off sitting on the opposite sides of the car on the SIR (Staten Island Railroad).
Me: Opened, "Where you going?" She couldn't hear me because we were far apart, so I picked up my backpack and moved to sit right next to her, and repeated myself.
Her: "Meeting up with my BF in Brooklyn"
Me: "Oh thats cool, how long have you guys been together?
Her: "3 yrs"
Me: "So you guys planning on having kids soon?"
Her: With a big smile, "I don't know"
Me: At this point I said something like, I know that the urge is harder when your together longer and longer (It was stupid I know) In my head I was thinking of how to nicely say "Well your biological clock is running out, shouldn't do something". I got off that topic, and asked her if she lived around here, she said ya. I told her where I was from, and like a stop later I decided to bail. It's not the best way but it's kind of my failsafe system "Well this is my stop", and I get off and move to he car behind. She replied with another big smile "Well it was nice meeting you". Somewhere in that converstation we shook hands when we introduced our names and she mentioned that her BF had the same name as mine (Know clue WTF I responded with). I should mention that I should never use that as a bail ever again, because we were pretty much going the same direction for a while. When we got to the ferry I saw her walking ahead of me, and I carefully avoided being seen.
2)This one didn't so well, I walked back and forth, up and down the floors of the ferry boat looking for any single sets. Of coarse I saw Erika during my travels but I know she didn't see me, and I avoided where I knew she was sitting. So I finally saw this one girl sitting alone, and approached, she was in a suit, about a 7 black hair.
Me: Opener, "So Where you going?"
Her: "To work" With a very uninterested expression.
Me: "So what do you do?"
Her: "Real Estate"
Me: "Oh thats cool, isn't the market really bad now?"
Her: "It is, but not for the city"
Me: I felt it was really going no where fast, and she was so not into it, so I started taking out my head phones and PSP to listen to some music. But in the mean time I was trying to think of anything else to say, but nothing came to mind. During that time she took out her phone and called someone. After I got set up, I got up, and said "Nice meeting you", but if she heard me she didn't acknowledge it.
3)This one went really well. After leaving from that last girl I headed downstairs and onto the front of the boat to get some fresh air and enjoy the view. I saw Lauren, a 7 blonde wearing a green tang top shirt outside. Our converstation lasted pretty much that whole ferry ride (at least 20 min), so I don't remember a lot of it, but here is kinda how it went.
Me: Opener, "Aren't you cold?" Now I was a bit chilly and I had a short sleeve shirt on. I figured she was freezing, but she wasn't.
Her: "No, I'm fine"
Me: "So where you headed?"
Her: "South Street Seaport to do some shopping" I think she asked me how about me.
Me: I said where I was going, we talked about how she moved back Florida, I told her about AZ, She's graduating in 2 weeks to become a teacher (WTF is with all the teachers?) Anyway I mentioned and kinda kidded around you must really like kids, she said ya, and I said something like "It's a shame how you don't get a lot as a teacher".
I tried to #close when we got really close to docking, but I fucked it up. This is sort of how it went.
Me: "Well you seem pretty cool" (There was a .5 second pause to my next line)
Her: something like "O ya?" and she was laughing
Me: "We should hang out some time."
Her: Something on the lines of "I don't know" or "I really can't"
Me: "Why not?" I mentioned something afterwards on the lines of "I don't really have anyone to hang with on SI, where she is living.
Not sure what happened after that, she was smiling the whole time, but we kind of moved on. I know now that I should have just continued with something like "Let me see your phone" and hand your my phone and saying "Lets exchange #'s". But I guess I gave up too easy :( I'm 99% sure I could have #closed her. We shook hands one more time before departing saying "it was nice meeting you".
So I finally made my way to Union Square, got something to eat, and looked around the park not seeing anyone, and went to the 4 story bookstore. I got there around 1:30 and already I was feeling a bit tired, although I had plenty of sleep the night before. Enter the Bookstore (Where the rest of these took place)
4)Blonde 7 sitting on floor reading.
Me: Opener, "You look comfortable"
Her: I think it was on the lines of "Ya kinda" She looked borderline happy, but still a bit upset, prolly cause I interrupted her reading.
Me: "So what are you reading?"
Her: "A cookbook"
Me: "Oh thats cool, Have you learned anything interesting?"
Her: Don't remember wtf she said, I think it was "no, not really"
I don't remember much after that, but I know I kinda walked away after that.
5)Another girl sitting down reading, 7 black hair
Me: Opener, "You look comfortable"
Her: I think it was on the lines of "Ya kinda" She looked happy though and was smiling up at me.
Me: "So what are you reading?"
Her: I don't remember is she said anything or just held up the book for me to see, it was called "Thank you for smoking" I've heard of this book, but not sure what it was about, she had just started reading it her self.
Me: "So are you trying to stop smoking or starting?"
Her: Don't remember wtf she said, I think it was "no"
Me: "Have you learned anything interesting?"
Her: "Well I just started it so not yet, but it looks interesting"
Me: No clue where I went from there, I might have said something like, are you from around here? I think she nodded. I sort of walked on the side of her continuing to pretend looking at the books like I was doing as I approached her, and all the girls there for the most part. I may have said "It was nice meeting you", I just couldn't think of anything to say and I started feeling my energy level just depleting from me like someone stuck a hole in my energy level tank.
6)Now I'm not sure if I started slacking my approach, if it was my energy level, or whatever but things really started going downhill from here. Blonde 7
Me: Opener ("Hey, how's it going?")
Her: I might have gotten a hi, she was texting at the time while standing in front of a bookshelf that I saw her looking at.
Me: "So what brings you hear today"
Her: With the some disgusted look on her, face and giving me that look of are you a fucking it? "Uh, Books"
Me: "Well what kind of books?"
Her: "Microsoft / computer books, my computer is broken and I'm trying to fix it"
Me: I wanted to tell her to just go to like the geek squad or something, or perhaps don't try it yourself if you don't know wtf your doing. But I remember from past experiences that I shouldn't say shit like that. So all I could get out was "Thats Cool". There was some dead silence for a bit, and then I said "So you live around here?"
Her: "Ya" and looks at me all weird again.
Me: "I'm from SI", she just flat out walked away after that, not saying a word.
7) I might as well just copy and paste #6 because it was pretty much the same shit. Black hair 7, sitting on floor reading what looked like a CD, but I'm sure it was a book. This was in the New Age Section
Me: Opener
Her: Looks up, there might have been a smile, "Hi"
Me: "So what are you reading?"
Her: No response, just continues to look down reading.
Me: Saying with a smile "I don't bite" (I might have said "Ya know" at the end of that)
Her: Gets up, and walks away.
8)This was yet another 7 with black hair. She was reading some magazine, I came up from her side.
Me: Opener
Her: Turns to look at me, then back to her magazine.
Me: "So what ya reading?"
Her: Shakes here head back and forth while still reading.
Me: "Nothing?"
Her: No response
At this point it was beyond over, So I saw an interesting magazine in front of me, I picked it up, thumbed through, then just left.
So things aren't going well, I'm getting even more tired than I was, I have been taking breaks here and there writing between some of these girls, and reading from my book waiting for the store to refresh itself. So i really think that it must be something that I'm doing or how I'm coming up to there. But I'm not sure.
9)I saw this girl coming up from one of the escalators, I might have already been on that floor, and I saw her stop at some book on a table. Blonde 7.5 with really shiny glasses that covered more than her eyes, She also had headphones on.
Me: Opener
Her: "Hi" With a smile
Me: I'm already thinking that I may finally have an actually conversation with someone, but I shouldn't have asked this question "So what are you reading?" I saw her just pick up the book, and was just looking at it, she wasn't reading it she didn't have time to know wtf it was.
Her: She showed me the book, it was called "Making the cut"
Me: "So what's it about?"
Her: "I don't know"
Me: "Well it looks like some kind of fitness book"
Her: "Ya"
Me: "Well ti don't seem like you need it" I knew after the words left my mouth wtf I did, I gave her an IOI w/o earning it, and it was wrong to say.
Her: "TY, well I'm looking for a friend"
Me: I think there was some kind of dead silence, cause I was trying to think of something else to say... "So what are you listening too?"
Her: "Sublime"
Me: "Oh thats a pretty cool band" I was about to ask what song it was, although I only know a few of them.
Her: Gives me a big smile and says "Have a nice day"
Me: I was confused on exactly wtf happened and where I went wrong, so I just got out Ok... and walked down the escalator.
I was down there like 1/2 hour, I was sitting on one of the few chairs they have in that place, and noticed her coming from the escalator, I was thinking to myself I think I'm going to go up to her and ask her WTF did I do wrong, and see if I could get any feedback at all, why the hell not? I already blew it, WTF was she going to do run away this time? I though for a while, and decided to check downstairs for some girls. So I waited like another 15 minutes, and decided to check, I saw her and Re-approached.
Me: "Hey" with a big smile, like it's me again.
Her: "Hi..."
Me: "I wanted to ask you a quick question. In your honest opinion was it my approach that threw you off or something?
Her: "No, your approach was fine" She was smiling
Me: "Ok, well I was just trying to get some kind of feedback.
Her: "No No, your approach was fine"
I was hoping that I would get a little more information than that, as now I was confused on where the fuck I messed up. If it wasn't my approach where the hell did I fuck up with those other girls? or was only the approach with this girl that was fine? I have no clue, I left that place after that, and headed towards the RSD Workshop, it was 5 at this point, so I was there like 3 1/2 hours.
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